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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    states that have enacted tort reform have seen minimal decreases in the cost of malpractice insurance.
    Well something needs to be done about malpractice, because my father is a doctor and I know a lot of doctors and they tell me they have to run extra tests to make sure there isn't a possibility of missing anything. Because if something gets missed then the chances are high they will get sued for it. And it also makes them hate their job now because they always after to worry about a lawsuit if something goes wrong or if a patient dies, even if it wasn't the doctors fault.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Is anyone surprised?
    No, and anyone claiming surprise needs to get a new seeing-eye dog.

    Anyone denying that the circus was anything but a sham need to buy more of the bridges I'm selling in Death Valley.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm not a partisan but I've got to say Obama has shown a real desire to make something happen that both parties can support, the last year of his efforts are evidence of that enough for me.
    He sure did. Why, he never met with Congressional republicans and even got his side to force a Christmas Eve vote on his monstrosity when they hoped no one was looking. That's the Left's idea of bipartisanship.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    states that have enacted tort reform have seen minimal decreases in the cost of malpractice insurance.
    Not sure where you're getting your information....

    There is a sizable body of economic literature demonstrating that the legal environment in a State affects the frequency of malpractice claims and the size of the awards. For examples, Zuckerman, Bovbjerg, and Sloan demonstrated that physicians in States with caps on damages in malpractice cases experience lower premiums than physicians in States without such laws. Danzon found that damage awards in States with caps on damages were 23 percent lower than in States without caps.

    In another article, Kessler and McClellan examined the impact of tort reforms on the practice of defensive medicine and found that tort reforms such as reasonable limits on noneconomic damages, which have been in effect in California for 25 years, can reduce health care costs by 5 percent to 9 percent without substantial effects on mortality or medical complications. Proponents of tort reform legislation emphasize that only 28 percent of physician payments for malpractice insurance are allotted to patients and that the remaining 72 percent are consumed by administrative and related costs.
    Impact of State Laws Limiting Malpractice Awards on Geographic Distribution of Physicians

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    They weren't in the bill, therefore they cannot exist.
    Riiiiight...and Affirmative Action specifically says it's not a quota bill.

    Tell us what happens when the government has one hundred patients to treat who will die if not treated, and the treatment will cost ten million dollars but there's only five million dollars in the budget for them?

    Do not pretend more money will arrive or any of the other fairy godmother **** the socialists always use to pretend their arguments are valid.

    Total expenses are projected at ten, projected resources are at five. What's the bureaucrat going to do?

    The word is "prioritize", and in that prioritization, the old lady is going to get the ****ty end of the stick.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm not a partisan but I've got to say Obama has shown a real desire to make something happen that both parties can support, the last year of his efforts are evidence of that enough for me.
    For me too.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    states that have enacted tort reform have seen minimal decreases in the cost of malpractice insurance.
    Then the reform must have been insufficient.
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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    I would have thought that being unable to pass it through in one fell swoop, the sensible thing would be to pass points that they are in agreement with.
    They can always come back with more clauses later on.
    Let us try and get something done.

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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    I would have thought that being unable to pass it through in one fell swoop, the sensible thing would be to pass points that they are in agreement with.
    They can always come back with more clauses later on.
    Let us try and get something done.
    Yeah, they'll add the death squads and gulags later one.
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    Re: Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    I would have thought that being unable to pass it through in one fell swoop, the sensible thing would be to pass points that they are in agreement with.
    They can always come back with more clauses later on.
    Let us try and get something done.
    We did get something done.... we stopped that abortion of a bill, now if we can just kill it dead, all 4500 pages.....
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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