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Kadhafi calls for jihad against Switzerland over minaret ban

At least the Swiss have the guts to stand up to these facists unlike most of the rest of cowardly Europe who go's overboard with PC to cater to these monsters. In addition they should throw out of there country any of these bastards whom express violent extremist views and ship them over to Libya where Khaddaffi can deal with them.

If any terrorist acts are committed against the Swiss because of his comments then I would hope that someone would reply with a Reagan type response to this jackass.
 
I wonder, just how 'tolerant' is Libya of Christians and Jews... :rolleyes:
 
If the Muslims can find a reason to get pissed off at Switzerland, then there's no making them happy.
 
Man who gets mad at the Swiss? Next to Canada, they're the least offensive country on the damn planet.
 
Deuce said:
Man who gets mad at the Swiss? Next to Canada, they're the least offensive country on the damn planet.
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Just goes to show that the Muslims are going to find any damn excuse they can to wage jihad on non-Muslims.
 
apdst said:
Just goes to show that the Muslims are going to find any damn excuse they can to wage jihad on non-Muslims.
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Not all Muslims think this way. It's just the people in power in some of those countries who are the most vocal.
 
Deuce said:
Not all Muslims think this way. It's just the people in power in some of those countries who are the most vocal.
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I don't see any of the citizenry getting up-n-arms about it.
 
apdst said:
Just goes to show that the Muslims are going to find any damn excuse they can to wage jihad on non-Muslims.
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And their religion gives them plenty of excuses to do so.
 
I've said it many times before about Kadhafi, Kim Jong Ill, Ahmadinejad, and Obama's pal, Hugo Chavez, that the next time one of them is on a flight inmid Atlantic there should be an awful plane crash in deep water.

We can say oh my we'll help in the fruitless search and we feel bad for the families of some of those on board.

The world is always better of when crazies who run countries disappear.

If the spread of Islam is not stopped like right now we're all in trouble.

Muslim Demographics Video

From Obama's Book Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
 
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Time for another bombing run. :mrgreen:
 
There's a lot more to this story than just minarets.

It all started when the Swiss police in Geneva arrested Gaddaffi's son for assault about a year or so ago. Ever since then, Daddy's been mad at us and looking for any reason to embarrass, humiliate or attack Switzerland any way he can.

He demanded a formal apology for the way his son was treated and when that didn't happen he kept two Swiss businessmen hostage in Lybia for months on some bogus expired visa charges or something. He kept stringing our politicians along, making them eventually apologize profusely, promising to release the two men and then not delivering on the promise. He finally released one last month, while the other one is still in a Lybian prison.

Of course he cut most of the trading and business agreements between our two countries too.

When Switzerland had enough of his bullying and made it harder for Lybians to obtain a visa to enter Switzerland, he retaliated by making it harder for ALL Europeans in the Schengen area to get a visa to visit Lybia, which of course made our European neighbors pressure us into easing the visa requirements.

This silly diplomatic war has been going on for months. It's really getting tiresome. :roll:
 
Arcana XV said:
he retaliated by making it harder for ALL Europeans in the Schengen area to get a visa to visit Lybia, which of course made our European neighbors pressure us into easing the visa requirements.
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I don't see the 'of course' there.
That's not an 'of course', that's an apologist policy and the most stupid act that could be taken.

Europe should have made it clear to Libya that if they do not turn things back to normal, they will be immediately and massively sanctioned.

Instead, they go on and criticize Switzerland for this madman's actions.
The only 'of course' here is that this is everything that's wrong with Europe these days.
 
Apocalypse said:
I don't see the 'of course' there.
That's not an 'of course', that's an apologist policy and the most stupid act that could be taken.

Europe should have made it clear to Libya that if they do not turn things back to normal, they will be immediately and massively sanctioned.

Instead, they go on and criticize Switzerland for this madman's actions.
The only 'of course' here is that this is everything that's wrong with Europe these days.
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It's what happens when political correctness is allowed to run amuck.
 
Apocalypse said:
I don't see the 'of course' there.
That's not an 'of course', that's an apologist policy and the most stupid act that could be taken.

Europe should have made it clear to Libya that if they do not turn things back to normal, they will be immediately and massively sanctioned.

Instead, they go on and criticize Switzerland for this madman's actions.
The only 'of course' here is that this is everything that's wrong with Europe these days.
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I was being tongue in cheek.

Of course.

;)
 
apdst said:
It's what happens when political correctness is allowed to run amuck.
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It has nothing to do with PC and everything to do with giving in to a rich bully. Other European countries are doing what Switzerland was trying to do at first. Protect their business interests with Libya. If there was no money to be made there, no one would give a rat's ass. Who knows, maybe he'll push everyone else as far as he pushed us and they'll get fed up too. Or our government will do the cowardly thing AGAIN and give in AGAIN. :roll:
 
Iron Yank said:
At least the Swiss have the guts to stand up to these facists unlike most of the rest of cowardly Europe who go's overboard with PC to cater to these monsters. In addition they should throw out of there country any of these bastards whom express violent extremist views and ship them over to Libya where Khaddaffi can deal with them.

If any terrorist acts are committed against the Swiss because of his comments then I would hope that someone would reply with a Reagan type response to this jackass.
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Maybe the French will try to protect him again.
 
Kadhafi is wrong.

But so was Switzerland for banning the minarets. It was a racist policy that served no purpose but to reinforce racial tensions.

Both sides are wrong.
 
Deuce said:
Not all Muslims think this way. It's just the people in power in some of those countries who are the most vocal.
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Isn't it always the people in power and the most vocal that instigate violence and create wars? Arguing that "not all of them" think this way is insignificant.

We can state with fact that the vast majority do not think this way. But we can also state that they also do nothing to take out their own trash leaving them for the West to clean up. I do not subscribe to the notion that we are to feel guilty for seeing Islam a certain way when they don't even clean it up.
 
MSgt said:
Isn't it always the people in power and the most vocal that instigate violence and create wars? Arguing that "not all of them" think this way is insignificant.

We can state with fact that the vast majority do not think this way. But we can also state that they also do nothing to take out their own trash leaving them for the West to clean up. I do not subscribe to the notion that we are to feel guilty for seeing Islam a certain way when they don't even clean it up.
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Have you not been paying attention to what is happening in Iran? People are being shot for protesting, yet still continue to protest. Were you not following the student demonstration a few months ago?

The people in power have the guns. That's the only reason why people have to put up with their crap. It takes organization, tenacity, strength, and weapons in order to topple these leaders. You make it seem like the majority must agree with the leaders because they're not uprising right away.

The majority are reluctant to throw their lives away, but if the cause becomes great enough, it will even override their survival instincts.
 
Arcana XV said:
It all started when the Swiss police in Geneva arrested Gaddaffi's son for assault about a year or so ago. Ever since then, Daddy's been mad at us and looking for any reason to embarrass, humiliate or attack Switzerland any way he can.
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There's nothing suprising about this. This is historical in this culture. It has never taken much to ignite Islamic fury. They have slaughtered each other over the most insignificant things and used minor details througout the 20th century to create enemies in the West to explain their culture's failures.

This is just one more personally significant thing being turned into a religious excuse for violence. Some will rush to the opportunity to please their God in a world of misery and hopelessness.


"Islam's" enemies keep growing. Wasn't it China a few weeks ago? Now Switzerland? Maybe a Penguin in the South is in need of some good old fashion Allah wrath. I'm still warning. Eventually it will not matter how much catering, deal making, money spending, or politicial correctness is spewed forth. These radicals and extremists will force a major "Clash of Civilizations" before long. Maybe in 5 or 10 years a plane or two will drop on Beijing or Paris or London or Berlin or Geneva or Moscow. Hell, by then there makes nukes in the Islamic toy chest.
 
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Orion said:
Kadhafi is wrong.

But so was Switzerland for banning the minarets. It was a racist policy that served no purpose but to reinforce racial tensions.

Both sides are wrong.
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All sides are wrong.

Kadhafi for the pathetic rants and insanity, Switzerland for the Minarets, and you, Orion, for thinking that Muslim is a race.
 
Orion said:
Have you not been paying attention to what is happening in Iran? People are being shot for protesting, yet still continue to protest. Were you not following the student demonstration a few months ago?

The people in power have the guns. That's the only reason why people have to put up with their crap. It takes organization, tenacity, strength, and weapons in order to topple these leaders. You make it seem like the majority must agree with the leaders because they're not uprising right away.

The majority are reluctant to throw their lives away, but if the cause becomes great enough, it will even override their survival instincts.
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I'm not concerned with what the Shia are doing in Iran. Our problem in regards to terrorism and ethnic slaughhter is Sunni.

But.....even with Iran we have quite a pickle. We can't really help them because we would be "meddling." But then again we can help them and then get blamed when they slaughter each other. But then again we can sit back and watch them protest and get murdered and pretend that they are doing all they can to make a stand against religious tyranny and oppression and get blamed for doing nothing. We can't seem to come out without being guilty from this culture.

Where are the Egyptian and Saudi militaries in Afghanistan? They are our allies, yet they do nothing. Middle Eastern governments were quick to send sympathies on 9/12 to ensure that they were safe from retribution. They were quick to show a little terrorist hunting within their own borders (cleaning house a little couldn't hurt). But in the end, this region's governments do little more than talk and their people continue to raise radicals and fanatics. Their youth continue to graduate schools with no jobs. Religious schools conitnue to paint the West as the enemy of their God, which pushes some of them towards extremist thought. America, all of Europe (to include the Swiss now), China and who ever else have been declared enemies of God by extremists in Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. Seems that people are starting to get the idea that this is not merely about a man in a cave. This is regional and cultural and it will get worse the longer we pretend it is not. Worse, even with Muslims traveling towards Iraq to slaughter other Muslims from all over the region, the region's governments are still pretending that this problem is confined to certain locales (even as those locales keep adding up). And not just Iraq, the current generation of Tali-Ban have come from across the region as well.

Even the Turks are in Afghanistan to fight what they label as "Rogues of Islam."
 
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