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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case
    Even Marx argued that a socialist state was a precursor to communism.
    A state is not a nation. They are completely different.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's another thing: why didn't the police roll their eyes at her and arrest her for wasting their resources? Why did the police actually follow through with her lunacy?
    If I'm not mistaken, this incident occurred in Jim-Bob territory. Y'all know what I mean?

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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Children should because children are citizens.

    They need to be taught that having the freedom to refuse to say the pledge is better than having explosives strapped to them in the name of Alah.



    The very fact that this student has the protected right not to say the pledge if she doesn't want to is by itself reason enough for her to do it.
    Children don't have enough maturity to decide whether or not they want to pledge allegiance to a country, or which country. Without that maturity their pledge is coerced. A pledge isn't a real pledge if it's coerced.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Children don't have enough maturity to decide whether or not they want to pledge allegiance to a country, or which country. Without that maturity their pledge is coerced. A pledge isn't a real pledge if it's coerced.
    The determination of if a child should say the Pledge, or any other optional thing of that sort, should be made by the parent, in most cases.
    Education.

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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The determination of if a child should say the Pledge, or any other optional thing of that sort, should be made by the parent, in most cases.
    That's true but we can also have opinions about what parents should and shouldn't teach their kids. Just because someone feels that it's wrong for parents to hit their kids, that doesn't necessarily mean that they want to take that right away from parents.
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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely ridiculous act on the part of the teacher, completely in contrary with school policies.

    Granted, I've never seen anyone personally sit for the pledge that wasn't doing it just casue they're a lazy **** or they think it was funny more so than because they were "Rebelling against america man!". Still, no one has to say the pledge in school. Its not required. And calling the cops on them is ridiculous.
    I agree it was amd over reaction to call the cops but it is sad to me when I see something like this happen........I guess the next thing will be a bunch of left wingers throwing the bird or the middle finger at the flag when the national anthem is playing........Like American said this kind of thing was unheard of when I was growing up...

    How far we go to push PC.............
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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I read this story yesterday in the Post.

    I hope rivrrat comes into this thread because she's the first person who made me think, "Why do I do the pledge of allegience?" At this point, if asked to do it in a classroom setting, I wouldn't do it. I think it's stupid (which has nothing to do with my patriotism).
    Kids have been doing the Pledge for probably 200 years without a problem......
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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Kids have been doing the Pledge for probably 200 years without a problem......
    Not quite.

    The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States is an oath of loyalty to the republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892.
    I don't know when they started saying in school.
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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I agree it was amd over reaction to call the cops but it is sad to me when I see something like this happen........I guess the next thing will be a bunch of left wingers throwing the bird or the middle finger at the flag when the national anthem is playing........Like American said this kind of thing was unheard of when I was growing up...

    How far we go to push PC.............
    Why do you hate freedom?
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    Re: Child escorted out of class by police for sitting during the pledge, mother outra

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I remember when my whole first grade class got paddled for something.
    I can remember when all the boys in my 5th grade class got paddled for shaking hands with the girls in the class and scratching their palm.....I think that meant we wanted a little loving.....
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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