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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I used to. I lived in NM, and drove 66, 550, etc almost daily.
    I think he ment the distance.



    Some farms out west span more than that.
    Yep.







    Depends, what is its milage loaded down with cargo and work stuff?


    What is its hauling capacity? Can it plow? haul mulch, carry more than 4 people comfortably?
    Landrover Defender? - Yep. The Rangerover and Toureg, maybe.

    The defender is like the Willis jeep, it can do just about everything.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Most commercial transportation firms have special tax rules for fuel. At a rate of a penny per month, nobody is going to see a major period of pain unless of course there are supply implications.
    People, like me, that are required to drive large vehicles do not get any special fuel rates. It is deductible as a business expense from income tax, but I pay the same price for gas as someone driving the family minivan.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    People, like me, that are required to drive large vehicles do not get any special fuel rates. It is deductible as a business expense from income tax, but I pay the same price for gas as someone driving the family minivan.
    So it is not a 1 to 1 relationship?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    I think he ment the distance.


    You've never heard of RT 66?





    Landrover Defender? - Yep. The Rangerover and Toureg, maybe.
    Deisle?


    The regulars get less than "40mpg" I think they are in thier 20's, and lets be honest, thats if you don't actually use the gas pedal.




    The defender is like the Willis jeep, it can do just about everything.

    the defender 90? Awesome vehicle, a buddy of mine has one, they don't import them anymore.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    So it is not a 1 to 1 relationship?
    I have no idea what you are talking about. All business expenses are deductible, including the cost of the vehicle, its maintenance and fuel, out of town meals and hotels, etc. Always been that way and hopefully always will be. If you use the family minivan for business, it would be deductible.

    Cost of fuel is the same for everyone.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    The cost of the tax is not the total cost you pay after deducting? If not, it is not a 1:1 relationship.

    All business expenses are deductible, including the cost of the vehicle, its maintenance and fuel, out of town meals and hotels, etc. Always been that way and hopefully always will be. If you use the family minivan for business, it would be deductible.
    Not sure what you are getting at....

    Cost of fuel is the same for everyone.
    Not everyone can use it as a business expense.

    The point that should be fairly obvious is that higher fuel costs will push towards greater fuel efficiency. With that said, (as previously stated) there is a general time lag; this can be dichotomized into two distinct areas.

    The first being that an instant spike in fuel prices will have some negative effects on profitability. The second is the income effect felt by consumers. If a tax is implemented that is extremely gradual; the marginal impact on profit and consumption will be ambiguous. It will however achieve its long run goal of greater fuel efficiency.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You've never heard of RT 66?
    Where I got my kicks.

    But I don't think you ment you drove from Chicago to LA all the time.







    Deisle?
    The real ones are, but they do "Sport" versions of the Rangie and Toureg. 4x4 owners point at them and laugh.


    The regulars get less than "40mpg" I think they are in thier 20's, and lets be honest, thats if you don't actually use the gas pedal.
    If you are buying one over here in petrol with the prices what they are, you are most likely not using them for work.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Deisle?
    Don't tell me you've got a problem with diesel trucks too. What's THAT about?
    They're cleaner, cheaper, have loads better torque and have about a 40% longer working life.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Don't tell me you've got a problem with diesel trucks too. What's THAT about?
    They're cleaner, cheaper, have loads better torque and have about a 40% longer working life.


    I love diesel trucks. I have no issue with them, I was trying to figger out where the other poster saw improvement with a land/rangerover.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Don't worry, Horatio will always drive one.

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