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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    So don't drive on the what? 4 days a year the snow is so deep the ploughs and gritters can't get through.
    I am that important I need to be able to get anywhere, any time.


    I also have an drz-400 with knobbies for suck occasions I can't get through via the truck.



    You complain at $4 a gallon? That's 40% cheaper than standard EU prices. That has nothing to do with the relative price of the commodity and everything to do with the untouchable status of fuel tax in the US and Canada. If the government is too timid to tax gas to encourage people to buy more fuel-efficient cars ( I'm talking 40-50 MPG, not 25-30) then there's no hope that the US and Canada will bring down their CO2, greenhouse emissions.


    US is how many square miles?


    europe is small, you don't have to drive as far. Not the same scenario.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Slight misconception there Rev. (May I call you Rev?)

    Commuter distances are pretty much the same everywhere. Most people spend most of their time within about 50 miles of their homes ditto for the US. Lets face it, who wants to spend hours and hours in a car every day?

    You might have a point with infrastructure, but not about distances.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post

    US is how many square miles?


    europe is small, you don't have to drive as far. Not the same scenario.
    An increased cost of fuel will push towards fuel efficiency. The questions is... when? I am not totally against a graduated fuel tax (at a rate of something like a penny per month for the next three years).
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    US is how many square miles?

    europe is small, you don't have to drive as far. Not the same scenario.
    What you drive Route 66 every day?

    Europe might be smaller, but it ain't small. My nearest supermarket is 50 miles away! Nearest city, 65 miles away.

    In any case, a car that's does 40 MPG would be even better if you do a lot of miles, no?
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Then drive something more efficient. Or car pool. Funny thing, when the price of gas was so high, people here were doing that big-time.

    Bottom line, the decisions that other people make affects my bottom line when it comes to gas prices.
    Ohhh, so I should be able to prevent people from doing things that affect my bottom line, like requiring CO2 scrubbers on generating plants??

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    An increased cost of fuel will push towards fuel efficiency. The questions is... when? I am not totally against a graduated fuel tax (at a rate of something like a penny per month for the next three years).



    So landscapers, and people who haul goods, and other working people will have to suffer, for percieved "fuel efficency"?



    If europe had the square milage of the US and was as spread out, europes gas prices could not be sustained at thier absurd rates.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What you drive Route 66 every day?

    I used to. I lived in NM, and drove 66, 550, etc almost daily.


    Europe might be smaller, but it ain't small. My nearest supermarket is 50 miles away! Nearest city, 65 miles away.
    europeans dont shop at supermarkets.


    Some farms out west span more than that.



    In any case, a car that's does 40 MPG would be even better if you do a lot of miles, no?


    Depends, what is its milage loaded down with cargo and work stuff?


    What is its hauling capacity? Can it plow? haul mulch, carry more than 4 people comfortably?
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ohhh, so I should be able to prevent people from doing things that affect my bottom line, like requiring CO2 scrubbers on generating plants??
    The reason you put those scrubbers in action does effect your bottom line, you just cannot see an instantaneous effect. Do you believe firms have the right to freely pollute as is dictates towards profitability?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The reason you put those scrubbers in action does effect your bottom line, you just cannot see an instantaneous effect. Do you believe firms have the right to freely pollute as is dictates towards profitability?
    Depends on your definition of pollution.

    I and my plants around the house don't consider CO2 pollution. I breath it out and they breath it in.

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    Re: GM to shut down Hummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So landscapers, and people who haul goods, and other working people will have to suffer, for percieved "fuel efficency"?
    Most commercial transportation firms have special tax rules for fuel. At a rate of a penny per month, nobody is going to see a major period of pain unless of course there are supply implications.

    If europe had the square milage of the US and was as spread out, europes gas prices could not be sustained at thier absurd rates.
    Well that is partially true. The ability to create a more fuel efficient auto was around fifteen years ago. Would the cost go nearly as high (does it need to)? I don't believe so, but the fact remains higher costs were shown to increase fuel efficiency in the summer of 2008.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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