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    Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

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    Feb 23, 1:01 PM (ET)
    By ERICA WERNER

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic congressional leaders confronted the reality Tuesday that they may not be able to pass the comprehensive health care overhaul sought by President Barack Obama. Republican leaders prepared to do everything in their power to make sure they can't.
    Democrats saw the sweeping health bill that Obama unveiled ahead of a bipartisan health care summit Thursday as their last, best chance at a top-to-bottom remake of the nation's health care system that would usher in near-universal health coverage. But some were clear-eyed about the difficulties after a year of corrosive debate and the loss of their filibuster-proof supermajority in the Senate.
    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said comprehensive reform would be best but it's not all or nothing.
    If Obama doesn't compromise with the Republicans, I don't think he's going to get them onboard.
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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    Funny how Obama says okay here's the Bill and yet they are supposed to meet with him Thursday to work out a bill.

    I think the Democrats will force it through no matter what happens unless enough voters let their Senators and Congress people know they will get to join the unemployed if they vote for this fraud.

    I'd like to think the Republicans can stop it but they need help and it has to come from WE THE PEOPLE.

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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    the summit is pure politics and rather empty, at that

    he can't do reconciliation, his social reforms physically do not FIT in that budgetary machine

    plus, it would be insanely ugly---on the floor

    i would expect john mccain and lamar alexander to start throwing things

    reid would not have 51 senators, not for a process so troublesomely tricky

    obama's going thru the motions to try one last time to get HIS SPIN on this issue, it kicked his butt so bad

    another strong indication of his surrender is the whispy little 11 page "blueprint" he put online monday en lieu of the comprehensive legislation he previously committed himself to

    the reason he wanted to put up the piece entire was to try to embarrass the opp for not having as much substance

    and then he puts up a thumbnail sketch that cbo says CAN'T be scored, it's too vague

    the point---if he could produce anything, he SURELY would have done so monday

    the fact that a book report is all he could turn in tells us HE AINT GOT SQUAT

    and now nancy's WHIP says the votes aren't there

    obama's a joke, all across the board

    he can't do anything right

    he's THAT bad

    thanks, friend

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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    What are they going to offset in a multi-trillion dollar deficit budget to accomplish reconciliation?
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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

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    If Obama doesn't compromise with the Republicans, I don't think he's going to get them onboard.
    You mean compromise more than they already have? They've given in to like every single demand.
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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You mean compromise more than they already have? They've given in to like every single demand.
    They why is there a public option?

    Public option revival gains steam - TheHill.com
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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

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    They why is there a public option?

    Public option revival gains steam - TheHill.com
    I hope they forget the price regulation (not letting insurance companies raise premiums) and add the public option.

    If they do that, and change the excise tax back to what it was in the senate bill, and lower the income tax changes because of this it would be a pretty dang good bill.

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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    No one can compete with govt, because govt has relatively infinite funding and therefore can work at a loss indefinitely.
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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    they haven't even given in to dems' demands

    190 in the house

    less than 51 in the senate

    ask mr ross, ms lincoln...

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    Re: Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

    a good bill?

    LOL!

    half a T cuts to m and m

    mandates on already bankrupt states, 200B, unfunded, in the form of expanded medicaid

    10 years of taxes, 6 of benefits

    mandates on individuals to buy for themselves that which they can't afford, fines and threats of jail for those who refuse or are unable to conform

    the doc fix, a quarter T

    exemptions for insider fatcats and recalcitrant influencers like ms landrieu and the seiu

    taxes, fines, fees on small biz, large biz, targeted industries, individuals, rich, middle and lower class...

    i could go on (and on)

    believe me

    a pretty good bill?

    tell it to martha coakley

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