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Hoyer: Comprehensive health bill may be no go

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Feb 23, 1:01 PM (ET)
By ERICA WERNER

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic congressional leaders confronted the reality Tuesday that they may not be able to pass the comprehensive health care overhaul sought by President Barack Obama. Republican leaders prepared to do everything in their power to make sure they can't.
Democrats saw the sweeping health bill that Obama unveiled ahead of a bipartisan health care summit Thursday as their last, best chance at a top-to-bottom remake of the nation's health care system that would usher in near-universal health coverage. But some were clear-eyed about the difficulties after a year of corrosive debate and the loss of their filibuster-proof supermajority in the Senate.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said comprehensive reform would be best but it's not all or nothing.
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If Obama doesn't compromise with the Republicans, I don't think he's going to get them onboard.
 
Funny how Obama says okay here's the Bill and yet they are supposed to meet with him Thursday to work out a bill.

I think the Democrats will force it through no matter what happens unless enough voters let their Senators and Congress people know they will get to join the unemployed if they vote for this fraud.

I'd like to think the Republicans can stop it but they need help and it has to come from WE THE PEOPLE.
 
the summit is pure politics and rather empty, at that

he can't do reconciliation, his social reforms physically do not FIT in that budgetary machine

plus, it would be insanely ugly---on the floor

i would expect john mccain and lamar alexander to start throwing things

reid would not have 51 senators, not for a process so troublesomely tricky

obama's going thru the motions to try one last time to get HIS SPIN on this issue, it kicked his butt so bad

another strong indication of his surrender is the whispy little 11 page "blueprint" he put online monday en lieu of the comprehensive legislation he previously committed himself to

the reason he wanted to put up the piece entire was to try to embarrass the opp for not having as much substance

and then he puts up a thumbnail sketch that cbo says CAN'T be scored, it's too vague

the point---if he could produce anything, he SURELY would have done so monday

the fact that a book report is all he could turn in tells us HE AINT GOT SQUAT

and now nancy's WHIP says the votes aren't there

obama's a joke, all across the board

he can't do anything right

he's THAT bad

thanks, friend

cliff
 
What are they going to offset in a multi-trillion dollar deficit budget to accomplish reconciliation?
 
American said:
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If Obama doesn't compromise with the Republicans, I don't think he's going to get them onboard.
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You mean compromise more than they already have? They've given in to like every single demand.
 
American said:
They why is there a public option?

Public option revival gains steam - TheHill.com
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I hope they forget the price regulation (not letting insurance companies raise premiums) and add the public option.

If they do that, and change the excise tax back to what it was in the senate bill, and lower the income tax changes because of this it would be a pretty dang good bill.
 
No one can compete with govt, because govt has relatively infinite funding and therefore can work at a loss indefinitely.
 
they haven't even given in to dems' demands

190 in the house

less than 51 in the senate

ask mr ross, ms lincoln...
 
a good bill?

LOL!

half a T cuts to m and m

mandates on already bankrupt states, 200B, unfunded, in the form of expanded medicaid

10 years of taxes, 6 of benefits

mandates on individuals to buy for themselves that which they can't afford, fines and threats of jail for those who refuse or are unable to conform

the doc fix, a quarter T

exemptions for insider fatcats and recalcitrant influencers like ms landrieu and the seiu

taxes, fines, fees on small biz, large biz, targeted industries, individuals, rich, middle and lower class...

i could go on (and on)

believe me

a pretty good bill?

tell it to martha coakley
 
The Prof said:
a good bill?

LOL!

half a T cuts to m and m

mandates on already bankrupt states, 200B, unfunded, in the form of expanded medicaid

10 years of taxes, 6 of benefits

mandates on individuals to buy for themselves that which they can't afford, fines and threats of jail for those who refuse or are unable to conform

the doc fix, a quarter T

exemptions for insider fatcats and recalcitrant influencers like ms landrieu and the seiu

taxes, fines, fees on small biz, large biz, targeted industries, individuals, rich, middle and lower class...

i could go on (and on)

believe me

a pretty good bill?

tell it to martha coakley
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Obama offers to expand the Nebraska deal to everyone like that will make it all better.
 
yes, in his "blueprint"

ie, the equivalent of a coloring book

and cbo says it can't score the cute little thing as it is too vague

so, yes, what you said

extending the cornhusker kickback TIMES FIFTY

the point---goodness knows what that will cost

the point---cbo can't say

the point---we won't have to worry about it cuz the bill is going nowhere
 
American said:
No one can compete with govt, because govt has relatively infinite funding and therefore can work at a loss indefinitely.
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The public option, at least the one in the previous bill, had to run off its own premiums and would not receive taxpayer subsidization to promote lower premiums. It was all right there in the bill, but nobody ever reads these things and just assumes the worst.
 
the effort to pass a pea thru the senate using reconciliation has stalled

ie, obama's got squat
 
true

but it's too late, as i know you appreciate

worst of both worlds for the progressives---fully responsible for pushing all this crap, they bring all this political pain upon themselves

with no payback, no pretty pot of public option at the end of the purple rainbow

this is why i say again and again, obama is the most incompetent politician at the national level america has ever produced

party on, peeps
 
Chappy said:
Obama's bill doesn't contain a public option.¹

The effort to pass a public option using reconciliation rules in the Senate has stalled.²
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The fact that it is there is all that matters. They want a public option, long rejected by Republicans.
 
American said:
The fact that it is there is all that matters. They want a public option, long rejected by Republicans.
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Well more people voted for Democrats and polls show strong public support for a public option (when explained properly what exactly that is) so I'm not sure why anybody should care what Republicans think.
 
Deuce said:
Well more people voted for Democrats and polls show strong public support for a public option (when explained properly what exactly that is) so I'm not sure why anybody should care what Republicans think.
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Don't look at me, look at your Democrat representatives.
 
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