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2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

They might to their closest friends. Just like a gay could also tell another close gay friend. it does not mean it has to go ant farther.

The point is no one cares what you do. The success of the unit is what is important. This is where your focus needs to be not on sexual orientation or if you can talk about it.

If no one cares what they do, then why should DADT even exist? And if sexual orientation shouldn't be the focus, then all the more reason to repeal DADT because...well....sexual orientation shouldn't be the focus right?
 
So is that reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to serve the military and their country? Stories about gay sex?

C'mon you two, just go ahead and say it. You don't want gay sex in the military, right? Just come out and say it.

But you know what? Being gay doesn't make a guy horny all the fracking time. Just because a gay guy is looking at you doesn't mean he is undressing you with his eyes. Do you guys realize how homophobic you sound?

Well I have been there and seen gays who could not control themselves and made advances to straight men..It was before DADT so it was harder to discharge them but we got it done via court martial........A lot of time and paper work were involved though.. I was involved a couple of times as a witness........

Yeah your right straight guys don't make advances against gays so that is no problem

Yeah I would not like sleeping and showering with gays and I don't believe most men would........I guess I would compare me showering and sleeping with a woman aboard ship...I am pretty sure they would like that although I am quite a hunk......
 
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Other countries' militarys seem to handle it professionally. I think our troops can rise to the challenge. The duties of our military don't require a special sexual orientation. Sex is not part of their mission.

Then why is it so important to gays to risk their service over? Gays know the law before they sign the contact.
 
If no one cares what they do, then why should DADT even exist? And if sexual orientation shouldn't be the focus, then all the more reason to repeal DADT because...well....sexual orientation shouldn't be the focus right?

No the focus should be the mission. Just shut up and it will be fine. Why is it so important that people know you are gay? There is no excuse people know the rules before they sign up.
 
Other countries' militarys seem to handle it professionally. I think our troops can rise to the challenge. The duties of our military don't require a special sexual orientation. Sex is not part of their mission.

Other countries are not exactly like ours...We have the largest operating military in the world.....A lot of militaries are like a job..they go to work and are home every night for the most part.........In the Navy we have one third of our fleet operating all the time.......We have troops in dozens of countries.....We have to police the world...It is a huge difference.....
 
No, I guess that means I have no idea what I'm talking about. Are you going to pull that shtick? :roll:

He asks that alot, and I always mention I have served. He has no real comeback for that but to say I am wrong. So don't let that deter you.
 
He asks that alot, and I always mention I have served. He has no real comeback for that but to say I am wrong. So don't let that deter you.

Lightdemon has not answered when asked twice if did you serve so it is obvious the lack of knowledge we see is no expierence.
 
Then why is it so important to gays to risk their service over? Gays know the law before they sign the contact.

They want to serve their country. They shouldn't have to hide who they are. A lot of times everyone knows without any asking or telling.

Hint: It's the guy without a wife or girlfriend or stories about past girlfriends.
 
No the focus should be the mission. Just shut up and it will be fine. Why is it so important that people know you are gay? There is no excuse people know the rules before they sign up.

I don't think that's the point. Gay folks don't want everyone to know that they're gay (though there are some who cant help it ;)), they just want to serve their country without having to hide who they are. Is that really so bad?
 
No, I guess that means I have no idea what I'm talking about. Are you going to pull that shtick? :roll:

I think its important because guys that have experienced the military and especially the Navy know a lot more what military life is like........

Its very easy for you to say let them serve openly...It does not affect you, no skin off your ass..........You might feel different had you served.........maybe not though......:roll:
 
They want to serve their country. They shouldn't have to hide who they are. A lot of times everyone knows without any asking or telling.

Hint: It's the guy without a wife or girlfriend or stories about past girlfriends.

They know the law when they sign up. Obey it or don't sign up. A person with long hair has to get it cut. Is that fair? That is who they are they should get to keep it.
 
Lightdemon has not answered when asked twice if did you serve so it is obvious the lack of knowledge we see is no expierence.

I was asked twice?? Really? I'm pretty sure the only time I was asked was once, and I did reply, to which NP had no response to.

I believe i called it a "cop out" last time we talked about it. Remember that?
 
I think its important because guys that have experienced the military and especially the Navy know a lot more what military life is like........

Its very easy for you to say let them serve openly...It does not affect you, no skin off your ass..........You might feel different had you served.........maybe not though......:roll:

You mean like me, and I think that the modern military can handle gays serving openly without difficulty. Why do you have such a low opinion of our men and women in the service?
 
I don't think that's the point. Gay folks don't want everyone to know that they're gay (though there are some who cant help it ;)), they just want to serve their country without having to hide who they are. Is that really so bad?

You contradict yourself and you think that is credible?
 
I don't think that's the point. Gay folks don't want everyone to know that they're gay (though there are some who cant help it ;)), they just want to serve their country without having to hide who they are. Is that really so bad?

We knew the answer before you answered.
 
Other countries are not exactly like ours...We have the largest operating military in the world.....A lot of militaries are like a job..they go to work and are home every night for the most part.........In the Navy we have one third of our fleet operating all the time.......We have troops in dozens of countries.....We have to police the world...It is a huge difference.....

We don't have to police the world.

The Russians have submarines. The UK has a Navy.
 
I think its important because guys that have experienced the military and especially the Navy know a lot more what military life is like........

Its very easy for you to say let them serve openly...It does not affect you, no skin off your ass..........You might feel different had you served.........maybe not though......:roll:

No, I'm pretty sure I'd have no problem serving with a gay guy. I have numerous gay friends who all tell me about their "escapades." I won't have any problems with those gay sex stories you mentioned. I also don't mind when gay guys hit on me, it's a compliment actually, I just tell them I'm not gay. It's not a big deal. I even work with a few gay teachers, they seem to be able to do their job just fine, why would it be any different in the military?
 
You mean like me, and I think that the modern military can handle gays serving openly without difficulty. Why do you have such a low opinion of our men and women in the service?

With all due respect you are a female and right or wrong I believe lesbians are looked at differently then gay men in the military...At least they are by men.....I really can't explain it but it is looked at differently in fact I would have no problem with Lesbians serving openly...
 
They know the law when they sign up. Obey it or don't sign up. A person with long hair has to get it cut. Is that fair? That is who they are they should get to keep it.

You are comparing sexual orientation to a hairstyle? :doh
 
No, I'm pretty sure I'd have no problem serving with a gay guy. I have numerous gay friends who all tell me about their "escapades." I won't have any problems with those gay sex stories you mentioned. I also don't mind when gay guys hit on me, it's a compliment actually, I just tell them I'm not gay. It's not a big deal. I even work with a few gay teachers, they seem to be able to do their job just fine, why would it be any different in the military?

Do you sleep with all those gay friends.......do you undress in front of them.......do you shower with them?

I too have gay friends.One is on my golf team...He is a hell of a guy and actually our best golfer with a 4 handicap.......Sadly he lost his partner to AIDS a while back......I went to the funeral......would I like to shower, undress or sleep with him.....I think not.......You know I have talked with him about gay rights......He just wants Civil Unions with equal rights and is pissed at people like you because he thinks you are actually hurting their cause for that......Kind of funny isn't it.......
 
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With all due respect you are a female and right or wrong I believe lesbians are looked at differently then gay men in the military...At least they are by men.....I really can't explain it but it is looked at differently in fact I would have no problem with Lesbians serving openly...

LOL

Because it's nasty when 2 guys kiss, but it's hot when 2 girls kiss, right?
 
Do you sleep with all those gay friends.......do you undress in front of them.......do you shower with them?

I've done all those things. It was called high school gym class as far as the undressing and showering.

I've slept in the same room as a gay guy who had a crush on me even.

I'm not gay and have a normal stance in public restrooms.

Navy, these arguments were used to stave off integration of African-Americans. It's going to happen. DADT is going away eventually. Probably soon.
 
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