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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    What really makes this sickening right now is that this subject has even got this much priority & focus from Chairman Obama. You'd think he'd be more concerned about winning the conflict in Afghanistan. So while the Liberal papers are headinling this issue like its so damn important right now the actual conflict (where many brave men are risking & sacrificing there lives) gets page 10.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Talk about propaganda.

    Simply Google gay gene hoax and learn something.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    How about we ask other countries that let gays openly serve in the military? Didn't Canada's military implode? Didn't Great Britain's? Did the soldiers mutiny or crack because while they can take the pressures of combat, they can't take the chance of "suprise butsecks!" The evidence says... not really. They functioned as before and the world continues to go round.

    Now I don't know an iota of a fraction of knowledge on military affairs as these two generals, but I can pull up a lot of high ranking military officials on the other side. Also, it probably won't be as easy as it sounds like what Jray said earlier. However, as he said, that's no reason not to do it. We racially integrated the military despite the dificulties. We can do the same with gays and straights.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    What really makes this sickening right now is that this subject has even got this much priority & focus from Chairman Obama. You'd think he'd be more concerned about winning the conflict in Afghanistan. So while the Liberal papers are headinling this issue like its so damn important right now the actual conflict (where many brave men are risking & sacrificing there lives) gets page 10.
    Maybe you cannot walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, but most can. Doing one thing does not mean neglecting something else. Logic people, logic...
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy - NYTimes.com

    By THOM SHANKER
    Published: February 23, 2010

    WASHINGTON — The top generals from the Army and the Air Force expressed deep concern on Tuesday about moving rapidly to lift the ban on openly gay service members, saying it could make it harder for their forces to do their jobs while fighting two wars.

    The comments by Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the Army chief of the staff, and Gen. Norton A. Schwartz, the Air Force chief of staff, may provide political cover for members of Congress who oppose President Obama’s call for repealing the policy known as “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

    “I do have serious concerns about the impact of repeal of the law on a force that’s fully engaged in two wars and has been at war for eight-and-a-half years,” General Casey told the Senate Armed Services Committee. “We just don’t know the impacts on readiness and military effectiveness.”
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Huh? If men and women can serve together, what is the difference if gay people are serving? This business that heterosexuals believe that gay people are attracted to EVERY person of their same sex is so ludicrous. Gay people are just like us--they are attracted to some people, but not all. Do these stupid generals think, "Joey is gay. He must be staring at my ass. He must want to BF me." Oh brother. Talk about ignorant.
    In the military, if a female thinks you're eye-****ing her, not only can she file a sexual harassment charge against you, she can also get you charged with intent to rape, which is a court martial offense. Whether, or not you wanted to rape her is of no matter; as long as she believes that you wanted to rape her.

    The same standard can and will be applied to gays. At least, I hope the same standard will apply. I pray that there won't be a double standard.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So they found two homophobic generals.. big wutido.


    Yea, anyone who doesn't agree with PeteEU is just homophobic. Straight out of the leftist playbook. You are so utterly predictable...

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Okay, I getcha. So if we change the policy to open gay lifestyle all those cost will go away and it will be free. Thanks, I stand corrected. I'm glad we have these analysis available to show us the err of our ways.
    Dont forget the polygamists and cross dressers. You let in one life style choice why not the rest of them? Aren't they people too? Don't they deserve "rights?"
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Dont forget the polygamists and cross dressers. You let in one life style choice why not the rest of them? Aren't they people too? Don't they deserve "rights?"
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sorry but it is bs.

    This ban on homosexuals in the military is a leftover from the days when homosexuality was banned in general in society, either by law or by some sort of society moral often enforced by the church and the state.

    While society has managed for the most part to get rid of the bans on homosexuality, the ban still remains entrenched in the macho world of the military.

    There whole argument is the same lame argument that they used to prevent women severing in the military and that argument was overcome for the most part.

    The argument is an old mans conservative argument that is based on the age old dividing up of roles in society.. men hunt and provide, women are homemakers and breeding machines. Anyone stepping outside this predefined role are punished. Like it or not, we dont live in the 1400s anymore, but in the 21st century.

    These generals are homophobic period. Anyone against gays in the military are homophobic. Anyone against women in the military are sexist. That is a fact. These generals should do their freaking job instead of getting mixed up in politics.. if they want to be in politics, then leave the military and do so.. dont sit behind the desk at the pentagon and promote their narrow-minded crap.
    There is no ban on homosexuals in the military. Plenty of them serve as it is; they just can't let their sexuality become known. Sad, but I think that's the best policy for now. We have more important things to worry about than someone's feelings. That's not to say the policy shouldn't be reviewed, but the only changes should come after a serious anaylsis has been conducted by the military. I know it's hard for you to accept, but people who served in the United States military actually know much more about it than some pinhead Eurotrash.

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