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2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

ptif219 said:
Another general. The left started this by saying a couple generals said it should be repealed. Fact is their are generals on both sides
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I seem to recall the Lefties insisting that all the generals supported the abolition of DADT. Anyone else remember that?
 
apdst said:
I seem to recall the Lefties insisting that all the generals supported the abolition of DADT. Anyone else remember that?
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Abolish and go back to the way it was, maybe.
 
Vanskills said:
I was a Marine for 8 years so i think im qualified to talk about it.

If they let OPEN homosexuals join the military i feel sorry for that person, they will be mocked and teased untill they quit and recieve a "dis-honorable" discharge. OR they will join just so they can sue the military for harrasment and quit with a huge payout. Military soldiers do NOT need this BS, keep your social projects in civiilan life.

Men in the military is like men in contruction, im sorry but its not homo friendly :2wave:
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Funny...I always thought once a marine ALWAYS a marine...

Your point is valid and part of the problem. There WILL be comments made. Theree will be fights. And when they are made you will see dissension, sexual harrassment and EEO complaints. GREATER and more subtel forms of harassment will follow because a battle buddy was turned in for making the comments. And this is juts a little taste of why many leaders and the GREAT majority of NCOs are opposed to repealling DADT.
 
apdst said:
I seem to recall the Lefties insisting that all the generals supported the abolition of DADT. Anyone else remember that?
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Well then you'll have no problem showing where ALL lefties or even a majority of lefties have said that ALL the generals supported abolition of DADT wouldn't you?
 
apdst said:
I seem to recall the Lefties insisting that all the generals supported the abolition of DADT. Anyone else remember that?
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There are actually a small number of soon to be retiring, fairly political minded generals that favor the repeal. I dount you will find too many marine generals that favor it. I also doubt you will find many combat field officers that support it. They are the ones that have to actually deal with the real world problems.

It always bothered me that a gorup of people that have always held the military in disdain believes they know what is RIGHT for the military when it suits their needs. They 'care' when it is politically expedient.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well then you'll have no problem showing where ALL lefties or even a majority of lefties have said that ALL the generals supported abolition of DADT wouldn't you?
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It's really irrelevant, since the left does support it whether generals do or not.
 
American said:
It's really irrelevant, since the left does support it whether generals do or not.
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Whether the left supports DADT removed is irrelevant to the claim that the left is saying ALL the generals support abolishing DADT which was the claim made by apdst.

He made an outrageous claimed, and got called on it's stupidity. nuff said.
 
TheNextEra said:
Whether the left supports DADT removed is irrelevant to the claim that the left is saying ALL the generals support abolishing DADT which was the claim made by apdst.

He made an outrageous claimed, and got called on it's stupidity. nuff said.
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We all know that the Lefties have been saying that very thing. You're just in denial, is all.
 
apdst said:
We all know that the Lefties have been saying that very thing. You're just in denial, is all.
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Sorry, but no, they haven't. If they have, you have no problem showing proof right? Oh yeah you don't have proof because that isn't what the left has been saying.
 
TheNextEra said:
Sorry, but no, they haven't. If they have, you have no problem showing proof right? Oh yeah you don't have proof because that isn't what the left has been saying.
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Typical leftist response. When you're wrong, you say, "No, we didn't actually say that". When you know damn good and well you did.

Don't worry; we didn't expect anymore from you.
 
apdst said:
Typical leftist response. When you're wrong, you say, "No, we didn't actually say that". When you know damn good and well you did.

Don't worry; we didn't expect anymore from you.
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Typical response made from someone that is bull****ting. You got called on it and have no proof. nuff said.
 
TheNextEra said:
Whether the left supports DADT removed is irrelevant to the claim that the left is saying ALL the generals support abolishing DADT which was the claim made by apdst.

He made an outrageous claimed, and got called on it's stupidity. nuff said.
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Okay fine, so why hijack the thread over your personal disdain for his words? We were having a pretty good debate until you decided you needed to get wrapped around the axle.
 
American said:
Okay fine, so why hijack the thread over your personal disdain for his words? We were having a pretty good debate until you decided you needed to get wrapped around the axle.
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Thats what happens when they have no argument.
 
American said:
Okay fine, so why hijack the thread over your personal disdain for his words? We were having a pretty good debate until you decided you needed to get wrapped around the axle.
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If you don't like what I have to say, don't respond to it.
 
TheNextEra said:
You made a false claim, and you got called on it. If you don't like it don't make false claims.
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But, I didn't make a false claim. Stop trying to muddy up the water.
 
apdst said:
But, I didn't make a false claim. Stop trying to muddy up the water.
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Yes, you did, you have provided NO PROOF of your claims. More lies from the right. Sad that you are being this dishonest.

You claimed that the left was saying ALL the generals supported abolishing DADT and have YET to backup that claim with facts or proof.
 
ptif219 said:
Truth hurts I take it.
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When you start talking about the truth let me know. Sad that a so called Christian such as yourself has to resort to lying.
 
ptif219 said:
I did by showing that a marine general says national defense trumps civil rights.
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And when you show the majority of generals saying this, you may have a point. Alas, you don't. And second point, generals do not make all the decisions for the military.
 
TheNextEra said:
And when you show the majority of generals saying this, you may have a point. Alas, you don't. And second point, generals do not make all the decisions for the military.
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What the generals say does not change anything. Congress must change it. The fact is there will be hearings on this and if you read my link the Marine General said this at a congressional hearing.
 
Vanskills said:
You are too ignorant to realize throwing openly flaming homosexuals into the military would cause a TON of problems with young 18-20 year old males that dominate the military. Listen bleeding liberal, you will NEVER change the mind or behavior of MILLIONS of young men with raging testorene to suddenly be kool with a bunch of homo's around them in close quaters
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Vanskills said:
The military is full of millions of "homophobes"
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MILLIONS?-----Millions?

Once and you get a pass, but twice? Do you even have a clue as to how many active duty military personnel there are?

Approximately 1.5 million. That doesn't qualify for an 'S' on the end. Then subtract for the number that aren't "young men with raging testosterone". Then subtract for those that aren't "homophobes". But I bet you already knew that and was just trying to 'enhance your argument, right...;)...:)



FYI-no points were deducted for misspelling testosterone
 
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