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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im just curious...are you a deliberate idiot...or does it come natural to you? Do you refuse to accept that in a male dominated, testosterone driven environment where anger, and violence is a commonplace occurence that a fairly large number of soldiers might not be...lets just say eager...to take orders from a flamboyantly gay individual?

    Im not here to ARGUE with you the merits. I DONT CARE if you agree or disagree...we wont be making policy changes. Im pointing out the problems. If you continue to stick your head in the...sand...well...fine...
    Not being able to follow the orders from a flamboyantly gay officer is a disciplinary problem from the ones not following the orders. The origination of the problem does NOT come from the gay officer, but from those who cannot get past their homophobia, or macho man superiority complex.

    If this is the problem that you're pointing out, explain to me how it is a problem that you attribute to gays? It seems to me the problem should be attributed to those who can't follow the chain of command.

    Is this really your point?

    And before you go on and write your response, please filter your ad homs out of your posts. I don't appreciate it.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like I said if you don't like the rules don't enlist....But if you do enlist obey the rules....
    There's a difference between not liking the rules and not obeying them. And I don't remember any part of any contract I signed for the Navy saying that I couldn't complain about the rules, as long as I was not officially representing the Navy or DOD.

    Now I'm not gay, but I certainly could have been brought up on charges a couple of times if I would have been caught. The problem is this particular rule makes it wrong for someone else to do the exact thing that I did while I was in by just routing my chit, marry the person I love. There are other things, but that's a major one. It's not fair, and it needs to change. If any group of people are being catered to in the DADT issue, it's those that are opposed to repealing it, not gays. Gays aren't asking for special privilege, they're asking for something that we have, the right to be in the military and still be able to date, kiss, hold hands with, dance with, and marry someone they are attracted to while on their own time without fearing discharge for doing any of these things that heterosexuals can and do do in the military all the time. Many of the things mentioned above are even authorized on base and in uniform for heterosexuals, although some require special occasions.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Unless society is ready to face the fact that being a homosexual is nothing more that a life style choice and goes against nature


    Yeah yeah yeah. Come up with some new material, we've heard this act already.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im just curious...are you a deliberate idiot...or does it come natural to you? Do you refuse to accept that in a male dominated, testosterone driven environment where anger, and violence is a commonplace occurence that a fairly large number of soldiers might not be...lets just say eager...to take orders from a flamboyantly gay individual?
    Uh, did it ever occur to you that a fairly large number of soldiers might not be eager to take orders from ANYONE?

    Yet they do.

    And like so many objections to gay soldiers, this one was used against letting blacks in the military too. After all, can you imagine a bunch of racist white boys taking orders from a negro?
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Me? I'm celibate. I believe in saving yourself for marriage.

    Did you save yourself for marriage? I assume you did, otherwise all that vaginal only sex would probably get boring after awhile.
    Hey professor critical thought...I want you to close your eyes...think loving thoughts about your mom...your grandma...and then think what wonderful ways they liked to 'take it'...I mean...other than vaginally...because OF COURSE they must have. They wouldnt have been 'normal' otherwise...right?

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Uh, did it ever occur to you that a fairly large number of soldiers might not be eager to take orders from ANYONE?

    Yet they do.

    And like so many objections to gay soldiers, this one was used against letting blacks in the military too. After all, can you imagine a bunch of racist white boys taking orders from a negro?
    Deliberate...got it. Made the note...

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Not being able to follow the orders from a flamboyantly gay officer is a disciplinary problem from the ones not following the orders. The origination of the problem does NOT come from the gay officer, but from those who cannot get past their homophobia, or macho man superiority complex.

    If this is the problem that you're pointing out, explain to me how it is a problem that you attribute to gays? It seems to me the problem should be attributed to those who can't follow the chain of command.

    Is this really your point?

    And before you go on and write your response, please filter your ad homs out of your posts. I don't appreciate it.
    Deliberate...got it.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So if a gay person gets caught kissing their partner while on leave, and then gets discharged, then they were too stupid to be in the service?
    You have proof this happened. If not it means nothing.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Deliberate...got it. Made the note...
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Imagine that

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