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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In all that bolding, you did not manage the note the part that is key:



    Penetration is required.
    Negative. Please, re-read the article.

    But, obviously, there's not much, short of kissing that isn't considered sodomy.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How long were you in the Navy?

    You may have more cobined time in service, but not more combined knowledge, because you obviously don't know what the UCMJ actually says.
    I knew the article you referred to was 125 not 134 before you. I supplied much more factual information than you and provided links, and I did not miss the requirement for sodomy that you skated past. You are, once again, wrong.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I knew the article you referred to was 125 not 134 before you. I supplied much more factual information than you and provided links, and I did not miss the requirement for sodomy that you skated past. You are, once again, wrong.
    Did you miss the part where it says, "other than the sexual parts"? That must be what you're missing. Yes? I thought so.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you miss the part where it says, "other than the sexual parts"? That must be what you're missing. Yes? I thought so.
    Perhaps I am confused. Where do mutual masturbation and frotting fall under that code?

    Also, could you cite a few cases where heterosexual people have been discharged for having oral or anal sex?
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Negative. Please, re-read the article.

    But, obviously, there's not much, short of kissing that isn't considered sodomy.
    So why does it say that penetration is required to complete the offense? It says quite clearly that oral, anal, or penetration of any opening.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you miss the part where it says, "other than the sexual parts"? That must be what you're missing. Yes? I thought so.
    Let's look at the full statement:

    or to have carnal copulation in any opening of the body, except the sexual parts, with another person
    Note the word "opening". Note that earlier it mentioned penetration was required to complete the offense. Now put those two together.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Perhaps I am confused. Where do mutual masturbation and frotting fall under that code?

    Also, could you cite a few cases where heterosexual people have been discharged for having oral or anal sex?
    Read the part that says, "other than the sexual parts". It's not hard, even I can understand it, plus I know how the military interprets the UCMJ.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Ready for the cream-d-la-cream of the UCMJ which makes damn near any offense plausible, because of, "intent"?

    Article 80—Attempts

    I'm sure that Redress is familiar with Article 80, what with her's and someone else's combined experience...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, it very much does have different rules for two otherwise identical people. If a strait mentions his orientation, no penalty, if a gay does, discharge.
    Like I said if you don't like the rules don't enlist....But if you do enlist obey the rules....
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like I said if you don't like the rules don't enlist....But if you do enlist obey the rules....
    So you never had sex with a woman any way but through the vagina while you were in the service?

    You lead a boring life NP.

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