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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Top US Marine rejects Obama plan to repeal gay ban


    The head of the US Marines said on Thursday he opposed ending the ban on gays serving openly in the military, the first top officer to break openly with President Barack Obama over the issue.

    General James Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he disagreed with Obama's plan to repeal the ban.

    "My best military advice to this committee, to the (defense) secretary, and to the president would be to keep the law such as it is."

    Conway said the current policy worked and any bid to lift the ban should answer the question: "do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve?"

    Conway's public rejection of his commander-in-chief's stance is sure to fuel debate in Congress on the issue and reflects apprehension among some senior military officers about changing the 1993 law.

    The chiefs of the US Army and Air Force also expressed doubts about lifting the ban at congressional hearings this week, saying they were concerned about putting the military under further strain in the midst of two wars.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just curious... is that a general discharge, or does that refer to something else?
    "other than honorable" and a general discharge are two different things.

    A general discharge would be issued in a case like where a person can't, no matter how hard they try, lose weight to meet the height/weight standard, or they couldn't pass their PT test, again, no matter how hard they tried.

    Other than honrable is when you **** up, but you don't **** up bad. Anyone else that decieved the military would recieve a dishonorable, but gays receive an other than honorable, because they didn't really lie, as no one asked them if they were gay. But, they can't receive a general, or even an honorable, because they enlisted understanding that gays are banned from the military.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That is precisely what you are saying when you say that our servicemen cannot work with gays successfully. Civilians can handle it, as can other military's. Sounds like you do not think much of our troops.
    The British army issues whiskey to their soldiers, while in the field, too. I don't think that would work in the United States army.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Wouldn't it be funny if these two generals turned out to be gay?
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The British army issues whiskey to their soldiers, while in the field, too. I don't think that would work in the United States army.
    Is this anything like navy beer days? WE seemed to handle them. I bet we could handle being issues whiskey as well. Why do you have such a low opinion of our troops?
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisbowmen View Post
    I joined to post on this subject.

    I have not served but my Boyfriend has spent 12 years in the military.(I actually signed up here with his information so he might post later) Anyways I have talked to him about this and I agree with what he has to say.


    I agree with him that if people who are openly gay can serve then women and men can all live with each other. All showers, bath rooms, training rooms, etc can be used by anyone at any time.If a man wants to take a shower he can go right in and shower with all the women, anytime he wants to. There should be no signs anywhere pointing out that we have two sexes. All signs should be "humans shower here" etc.

    Why would it be ok that women have a problem with showering with men but straight men cant have a problem with showering with gay men. I know my boyfriend would LOVE to shower with some of the women he works with. I would NOT like it at all!

    If sexual orientation should not be a factor for gay folks then there should be no factor on anyones sex at all. I agree, now, after he explained himself to me that it would be rough to shower with a guy you just heard talking about his boyfriend and his ripped abs if I were a man.

    To me this makes alot of sense, maybe to you it doesn't but it seems to be why my boyfriend and his buddies are not for this at all.

    If I don't make alot of sense I'm sorry, I got woke up by the dogs and couldn't go back to sleep, I'm still a bit groggy.
    Excellent post.......you make a lot of sense and your right.......I could not have said it better

    welcome you or your BF to DP.....Looking forward to your input and thank your BF for his service..........
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Top US Marine rejects Obama plan to repeal gay ban


    The head of the US Marines said on Thursday he opposed ending the ban on gays serving openly in the military, the first top officer to break openly with President Barack Obama over the issue.

    General James Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he disagreed with Obama's plan to repeal the ban.

    "My best military advice to this committee, to the (defense) secretary, and to the president would be to keep the law such as it is."

    Conway said the current policy worked and any bid to lift the ban should answer the question: "do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve?"

    Conway's public rejection of his commander-in-chief's stance is sure to fuel debate in Congress on the issue and reflects apprehension among some senior military officers about changing the 1993 law.

    The chiefs of the US Army and Air Force also expressed doubts about lifting the ban at congressional hearings this week, saying they were concerned about putting the military under further strain in the midst of two wars.
    This is just the tip of the iceburg no matter what our left wing friends say............
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Is this anything like navy beer days? WE seemed to handle them. I bet we could handle being issues whiskey as well. Why do you have such a low opinion of our troops?
    You seem to be doing that a lot redress.....Just because someone disagrees with you on the issue does not mean they have a low opinion of our troops........That is totally out of line and you know it........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You seem to be doing that a lot redress.....Just because someone disagrees with you on the issue does not mean they have a low opinion of our troops........That is totally out of line and you know it........
    When you suggest that the military cannot handle simple things that civilians can handle, then yes, you do have a low opinion of the military. I am not basing that simply on the position of the issue, but on the words of those who are suggesting that our military personnel cannot handle such simple things as handling a small amount of alcohol, or dealing with people that the rest of the country, and the rest of the world mostly handles.
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    Re: 2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When you suggest that the military cannot handle simple things that civilians can handle, then yes, you do have a low opinion of the military. I am not basing that simply on the position of the issue, but on the words of those who are suggesting that our military personnel cannot handle such simple things as handling a small amount of alcohol, or dealing with people that the rest of the country, and the rest of the world mostly handles.
    Civilians and the military are different..........Things are much tougher in the military......I personally don't think there is no requirement our military can't handle, social experimenting withstanding, ........

    Just cool it when you call people out that you don't even know......Like I said I am not the only one you have done it to............
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