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Navy will soon let women serve on subs

I bet she couldn't hump a ruck all day, because body builders's bodies are so accustomed to getting alot of calories everyday and when her daily caloric intake is cut in half--which happens in the field--she'll be useless.

LMFAO

And yet if that was a pic of a man, you wouldn't say that.

****ing hypocrisy abounds in this thread.
 
All us vets, telling you what the problems will be and why and we don't know jack **** about it.

How long were you in the service?

What the problems WILL be? You mean being a vet makes you psychic?
 
We're talking about reality; not fantasy.

What happens when a sub is operational and a female sailor is raped? She has to stay on the sub until the cruise is finished--for months--or does the sub break from it's mission to return to port? Think about how impractical and how dangerous to the mission the latter would be.

What happens when a man commits some other crime? Does the ship break mission?
 
Okay, the thread has gone silly now. I'm sure we can find 10,000 of these anytime we want. :roll:

They don't even need to be as muscular as her to perform "combat" roles. The fact is there are some women that can perform to the same standard as men, so why not just keep the standards the same for men and women and if women can meet the standards for traditional combat roles, then let them do what they want.

Don't get me wrong, I know men and women are different and I am happy about that, but there are some women than can meet and/or exceed the same standards as men.

Anyway, there are no front-lines in the operations going on today, so most are seeing combat already.
'There is no front line' for women in Iraq - World Blog - msnbc.com
 
What the problems WILL be? You mean being a vet makes you psychic?

It will cause a breakdown in discipline. Rape and sexual harassment rates will rise. Unit integrity will suffer. Commanders's time that could be used to train their troops will be used up will paperwork for all the new discipline problems, therefore, training will suffer. Just to name a few.
 
It will cause a breakdown in discipline. Rape and sexual harassment rates will rise. Unit integrity will suffer. Commanders's time that could be used to train their troops will be used up will paperwork for all the new discipline problems, therefore, training will suffer. Just to name a few.

That's your assumption.
 
I bet she couldn't hump a ruck all day, because body builders's bodies are so accustomed to getting alot of calories everyday and when her daily caloric intake is cut in half--which happens in the field--she'll be useless.

She did manage to do 4 years in the USMC, so I bet she could handle it.
 
What happens when a man commits some other crime? Does the ship break mission?

Do you suggest that a female rape victim be forced to stay on board and do her job, as if nothing ever happened? Or should she receive immediate counciling and medical treatment?
 
What was her MOS? It wasn't a combat arms MOS.

Sure, but she did fine in basic training I would imagine, and I still think she could handle pretty much any MOS.
 
LMFAO

And yet if that was a pic of a man, you wouldn't say that.

****ing hypocrisy abounds in this thread.
Actually, the soldiers in the military are kept in a physical status that is balanced between stamina and power.

Body builders do not fit into that category, whether males or females.
 
Do you suggest that a female rape victim be forced to stay on board and do her job, as if nothing ever happened? Or should she receive immediate counciling and medical treatment?

Yes, and yes. If she requires medical treatment then of course she should receive it, just like anyone else who happens to get injured onboard. If she requires counseling, then she should receive it. Do they not have counselors on board? You guys keep going on and on about the psychological difficulty on subs, so I can't imagine that they don't have counselors. Should she continue to do her job? Yes.
 
Actually, the soldiers in the military are kept in a physical status that is balanced between stamina and power.

Body builders do not fit into that category, whether males or females.

Well, I guess it's good that she's a Marine, huh?
 
Well, I guess it's good that she's a Marine, huh?
Yes, which is why this is quite the weird situation.

I guess she didn't see much fighting.
 
All us vets, telling you what the problems will be and why and we don't know jack **** about it.

How long were you in the service?

All us vets are saying no such thing. Qualify that with some vets; not all.
 
Sure, but she did fine in basic training I would imagine, and I still think she could handle pretty much any MOS.

She did fine in basic training, in a female unit, at female standards.

I don;t she could handle being a grunt everyday, after she loses all that muscle mass, because she isn't taking in the calories that she needs to maintain that physique.
 
All us vets are saying no such thing. Qualify that with some vets; not all.

You were a hospital steward. I wasn't counting you as a vet. Unless you got some field time. Did you?
 
Yes, and yes. If she requires medical treatment then of course she should receive it, just like anyone else who happens to get injured onboard. If she requires counseling, then she should receive it. Do they not have counselors on board? You guys keep going on and on about the psychological difficulty on subs, so I can't imagine that they don't have counselors. Should she continue to do her job? Yes.

Not rape councilers, no. For obvious reasons. I guess we're going to have to assign a shrink to every sub now, in case some chick get's raped, or harassed.
 
We're talking about reality; not fantasy.

What happens when a sub is operational and a female sailor is raped? She has to stay on the sub until the cruise is finished--for months--or does the sub break from it's mission to return to port? Think about how impractical and how dangerous to the mission the latter would be.

Same thing that happens if one sub mate attacks or kills another. The guilty should be imprisoned and the victim is counseled and possibly isolated.

Our military operations should not be dictated by criminal activity.
 
Not rape councilers, no. For obvious reasons. I guess we're going to have to assign a shrink to every sub now, in case some chick get's raped, or harassed.
I doubt the kind of soldiers that serve on a sub would have such an urge for sex.

It's not like they spend their lives in the depths of the ocean, miles away from anything female. :2razz:
 
Same thing that happens if one sub mate attacks or kills another. The guilty should be imprisoned and the victim is counseled and possibly isolated.

Our military operations should not be dictated by criminal activity.

Isolated on a submarine that is at sea for several months? How does that happen, exactly?


I just can't see that being a healthy environment for a rape victim.
 
It will cause a breakdown in discipline. Rape and sexual harassment rates will rise. Unit integrity will suffer. Commanders's time that could be used to train their troops will be used up will paperwork for all the new discipline problems, therefore, training will suffer. Just to name a few.

It seems training needs to be looked at overall anyway if we are breeding soldiers to conduct criminal activity.
 
I'll post this question again, since no one wanted to touch it the first time.

What happens when a female sailor finds out she's 3 months pregnant, 2 months into a 6 month cruise? Make sure the pharmacy is stocked up on pre-natal vitamins and keep an OBGYN on board?
 
It seems training needs to be looked at overall anyway if we are breeding soldiers to conduct criminal activity.

Oh my! Are you suggesting that our military is actually breeding rapists? Gotta admit. That's a first.
 
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