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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't have to back it up. That was then, this is now. Combat medics are armed and no longer wear the distinguishing cross because of the modern day battle field. Insurgents not being part of the Geneva convention do not recognize them a non combatants. Sort of defeats the purpose of us calling them non combatants huh.

    Since our medics have to move with the troops and preform in the same conditions, it is important that they also be physically as prepared as the troops they are with.
    That was then and it's still now Whether it's observed when fighting a non-signatory to the Geneva Conventions is irrelevant to what policy actually states.

    Of course medics are armed. I even said so in my previous post. The one time we went to the field, we were armed with M16's; and were still considered non-combatants.

    I agree with the last paragraph for medics assigned to combat troops. But it doesn't apply to medics in field hospitals or other areas behind the lines. There's no need for it.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I think women and gay should be able to openly serve in all areas of the military.

    Our military should not be limited to personnel because of a few's inability to focus on their job rather then what is in their pants. If anyone cannot handle the mental and physical requirements of their post then perhaps they should request for different means of employment.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Dear BlackDog, you lost me with your "been in the Tavern more than one time" thing.. I do NOT really hang out in the Tavern so your comment is lame and I will not read the rest of your drivel! When you can be HONEST? GET BACK TO ME!
    Sounds like a cop out to me.....
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    That was then and it's still now Whether it's observed when fighting a non-signatory to the Geneva Conventions is irrelevant to what policy actually states.
    Not when you are fighting in 2 wars were the insurgents are not members of the accords.

    Different times require different measures.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Of course medics are armed. I even said so in my previous post. The one time we went to the field, we were armed with M16's; and were still considered non-combatants.
    Not by the enemy you are not. You would be killed just like any other soilder.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    I agree with the last paragraph for medics assigned to combat troops. But it doesn't apply to medics in field hospitals or other areas behind the lines. There's no need for it.
    As with any other assignment in the Army, it could change at any time. You have to be ready to go into the field at any time as a solider. In the end that is what you are medic or not.

    So yes, there is an absolute need for it.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I think women and gay should be able to openly serve in all areas of the military.

    Our military should not be limited to personnel because of a few's inability to focus on their job rather then what is in their pants. If anyone cannot handle the mental and physical requirements of their post then perhaps they should request for different means of employment.


    You have no clue......
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I think women and gay should be able to openly serve in all areas of the military.

    Our military should not be limited to personnel because of a few's inability to focus on their job rather then what is in their pants. If anyone cannot handle the mental and physical requirements of their post then perhaps they should request for different means of employment.
    You should probably look at the evidence posted and then follow what you have in your sig.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Since people want to ignore the actual argument put forward, here it is again for your consideration...

    Fact: In every case, every single one the standards have been reduced for females.

    Fact: Multiple people have been asked to show just one example of where this did not happen. The best they could do was a few ad-hom's.

    Fact: The standard for females are to low for combat arms in ground combat.

    Fact: Women are physically on average weaker than men, not by a little either. If it were not women could play in the same sports as men, they don't compete against men for a reason.


    Those are the facts.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You have no clue......
    So there are many that are unable to meet the mental requirements of their post? Not to mention, for those that are married, their inability to stay faithful to their wedding vows.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You should probably look at the evidence posted and then follow what you have in your sig.

    "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
    Sorry I don't have time to read through 70+ pages. Care to link to the evidence of you have it readily available?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Since people want to ignore the actual argument put forward, here it is again for your consideration...

    Fact: In every case, every single one the standards have been reduced for females.

    Fact: Multiple people have been asked to show just one example of where this did not happen. The best they could do was a few ad-hom's.

    Fact: The standard for females are to low for combat arms in ground combat.

    Fact: Women are physically on average weaker than men, not by a little either. If it were not women could play in the same sports as men, they don't compete against men for a reason.


    Those are the facts.
    What I would like to see proven is that the woman's standards are in adequate to perform a successful job in combat situations. A woman only doing 10 pulls vs a mans 20 doesn't equate to job performance.

    Just a few questions.

    Are women unable to carry the average infantry equipment?

    Are women unable to shoot as accurately as men?

    Are women unable to make decisions as fast and/or as accurately as men?
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