NEWSFLASH: The military discriminates people on the grounds of physical fitness, maybe this is news to you but its going on for a while now Im pretty sure. Arguing that we suddenly cannot do it or that allow women on subs will change that policy, is just making up issues that don't exist.
What do you do with the 100 lb men who want to serve on a sub?Originally Posted by Navy Pride
Not allowing someone to do something on the grounds that they would be rubbish is not unfair discrimination. Preventing someone who would do a good job on the grounds that they are the wrong gender is.
You didn't say 'people', you said 'women'. Big difference.Originally Posted by Scarecrow
Mind you, it's true that an equally big difference is saying 'army' not 'navy' . Consider the question repeated with that ammendum.
Last edited by iangb; 02-23-10 at 07:46 PM.
The truth may be out there, but lies are in your head. ~Terry Pratchett
Oh wait... your point is that maybe the PEOPLE on the sub should be physically capable of performing the necessary tasks? I agree. What does this have to do with gender, though?
Some women CAN do the same as SOME men do. The only offensive thing in your statements is the sheer ignorance about the capabilities of the female form.
And, some women can physically perform at the same level as some men.
Women on a submarine worked for Tony Curtis.
For example . . .
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ttd48u0J0&NR=1"]YouTube- Operation Petticoat Preview[/ame]
[Trivia Fact: Tony's daughter Jamie appeared in the TV version of Operation Petticoat.]
Last edited by Goyboy; 02-23-10 at 07:53 PM.
The height of wisdom is to say, "I do not know." -Socrates
The hourly logs have been taken....that takes three minutes. The #2 LOP was shut down, cleaned, and put to work on the Starboard SSTG LO Sump. The PLO Strainer got it's daily cleaning at 0030, the Port SSTG LO Strainer was cleaned at 0120, the Starboard SSTG LO Strainer was cleaned at 0140. It took 30 seconds to shift from #1 and #2 Condensate Pumps to #3 and #4, which was done at 0010. It took five minutes to shift from #1 and #2 R114 AC units to #3 and #4, which was done at 0024. The ship is currently cruining at PD off the coast of China on routine patrol, no manuvers are expected this midwatch.
There is NOTHING left to do for the next four hours but take those hourly logs. Fifty seven minutes of each of the next four hours will be spent trying to find something interesting to do, and failing. This is when the ERLL watch pulls his spinal tap syringe from his pocket (the ELT's use them for boiler water oxygen sampling) and he climbs up to be under the Main Engine aft journal bearing, because he knows the Engine Room Upper Level watch has to put his face right THERE to read that thermometer. So you squirt him. He'll try to squirt you when you're reading the ERFW pump outlet thermometer.
It's not only distinctly possible to see the Engine Room Supervisor, the Engineering Watch Supervisor, and the Auxiliary Electrician Aft before they see you, but fairly easy to move around the watch station to hide from them, a game most ERLL watches play. But this time, when the Engine Room Supervisor comes down, the Lower Level watch and he get together. The EWS is supervising the Engineering Laboratory Techician's reactor sample, and that pins the EOOW in the Manuvering Room for nearly half an hour. The AE aft is cool, he has a thing with the cook that he doesn't want to mess up. So there's no problem sneaking back behind the condensers for a little fun.
THAT's how it will work on a submarine.
I got my dolphins a long time ago, I don't need someone who hasn't lived the life to tell me "facts".
Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 02-23-10 at 07:59 PM.
You crack me up......Before you get all defensive......It does not make a rats ass whether women serve on subs or not.............I am just telling you from what I know about it though my experience it would be hard as hell to accomplish....Now go take your attitude to your room........
"God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."
Glad to see you figured that out.
Now, if your understanding of submarines is so shallow (Dolphin-wearing pun intended) that you missed that error, you should stop expressing your uninformed opinions on this matter and listen politely.
I think 100 pound men are the exception rather then the rule in fact not sure I ever saw any 100 pound man aboard a surface ship......-The Navy has regulations on weight and height for both men and women and besides 100 pound men have a different muscle break down then 100 pound women.......
Here is a flash maybe you did not know, men are generally stronger then women......
Last edited by Navy Pride; 02-23-10 at 08:04 PM.
"God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."