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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

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    Says who?
    The West Point Academy.

    I have already posted the information.

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    Some females could. Some males couldn't. So you let whoever can meet the standards do it.
    All males who pass the basic physical training can. All females who pass with lessoned standards don't even come close.

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    Are you saying there are no jobs females can do in the military?

    Use logic.
    I will ask you to point out where I have said this?

    You should use some logic this time.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Like I said - anyone who can meet the standards should get the job. Pretty simple concept.

    Apparently older male soldiers can't do it either - so why aren't they expelled?
    Like I've said a gazillion times not only this thread, nor this forum, it ain't just about ability. Co-ed combat arms units will cause breakdowns in discipline.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Like I said - anyone who can meet the standards should get the job. Pretty simple concept.
    And 99.9% of females can't.

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    Apparently older male soldiers can't do it either - so why aren't they expelled?
    What a moronic statement. Actually they can, they don't have to.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Huh?

    Different standards = the same standards?

    When there are more than one standard, that's called a double-standard.



    Well, yes, if they are doing the same job.

    The standards should be for the job, not the person who wants the job. That's the purpose of standards - to make sure the job is occupied by people who can do it. Otherwise they aren't really standards.
    You would be right, if the PFT was designed to measure ability to do a job. It's not, it's designed to measure how fit(or healthy) a person is.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I hope you're not trying to say that a woman who can only do 30 pushups is at the same physical fitness level of a man that can do 60 pushups.
    It's tenuous at best. A woman who can do 30 is not as physically strong as a man who can do 60, at least in upper body strength. However, the level of overall fitness is roughly the same.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You would be right, if the PFT was designed to measure ability to do a job. It's not, it's designed to measure how fit(or healthy) a person is.
    Correct in the Navy and maybe the Air Force, but not in the Marines or Army. In the Army etc it is to increase your physical ability to be able to preform at a basic infantry level.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yet, doctors and nurses aren't required to perform weapons qual, nor soldier skills training. A fact that supports everything Blackdog has been saying.
    But doctors, nurses, yeoman, and all those people are still very much a part of the military.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Correct in the Navy and maybe the Air Force, but not in the Marines or Army. In the Army etc it is to increase your physical ability to be able to preform at a basic infantry level.
    Actually, I got the line from the marines. It was a discussion in the military section of the board this summer, long thread that meandered and I have no clue the original topic, but the documentation was very clear.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But doctors, nurses, yeoman, and all those people are still very much a part of the military.
    Absolutely, but they are not considered combatants or leaders of men. Hence the rank respect and pay without the command.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, I got the line from the marines. It was a discussion in the military section of the board this summer, long thread that meandered and I have no clue the original topic, but the documentation was very clear.
    "Without doubt, Marine boot camp is more challenging -- both physically and mentally -- than the basic training programs of any of the other military services. Not only are these requirements much higher, but recruits are required to learn and adhere to the core values of
    Honor, Courage, and Commitment.
    " - Marine Corps Basic Training - USMC Recruit Training at Parris Island

    The Marine standards for females are almost exactly the same as the Army with the exception of the flexed arm hang.

    Much lower than the men in either the Army or Marines.
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