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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why is it acceptable?
    Because as we age or physical ability changes.

    You don't see a 50 year old solider carrying around the squad saw or as a loader on a tank.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Since the purpose is to measure overall fitness, and the different standards result in equal levels of fitness(cuz there are differences between the sexes), then in point of fact, they are measuring to equal standards.
    Huh?

    Different standards = the same standards?

    When there are more than one standard, that's called a double-standard.

    Or do you propose we eliminate differences for age in the standards too? Should that 40 year old chief have to meet the same standard as the 18 year old?
    Well, yes, if they are doing the same job.

    The standards should be for the job, not the person who wants the job. That's the purpose of standards - to make sure the job is occupied by people who can do it. Otherwise they aren't really standards.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because as we age or physical ability changes.

    You don't see a 50 year old solider carrying around the squad saw or as a loader on a tank.
    So what's the difference between letting a 50-year-old soldier have lesser standards and a woman have lesser standards?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So what's the difference between letting a 50-year-old soldier have lesser standards and a woman have lesser standards?
    Because the female at age 19 cannot carry the squad weapon etc. A male can. As you get older in the military you also gain rank. With this rank, you don't have to do the grunt work anymore. Hence your physical ability matches your rank.

    Most solders over the age of 40 are in command or pencil pushing jobs.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So what's the difference between letting a 50-year-old soldier have lesser standards and a woman have lesser standards?
    Because a 19 y/o female will be serving as a loader on a tank, or the driver and will eventually have to, "break-track", in the field, or tote a squad machine gun. If she's a Bradley crew member, she will have to dismount the main gun barrel which weigh's 90 pounds, or the feeder which weighs 60 pounds that has to be lifted from a sitting position. Or, if she's in a light infantry unit she'll have to hump a 60 pound ruck.

    That's why.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Weeh, another females in the military thread.

    I love those.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because the female at age 19 cannot carry the squad weapon etc. A male can.
    Says who?

    Some females could. Some males couldn't. So you let whoever can meet the standards do it.

    Are you saying there are no jobs females can do in the military?

    Use logic.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because a 19 y/o female will be serving as a loader on a tank, or the driver and will eventually have to, "break-track", in the field, or tote a squad machine gun. If she's a Bradley crew member, she will have to dismount the main gun barrel which weigh's 90 pounds, or the feeder which weighs 60 pounds that has to be lifted from a sitting position. Or, if she's in a light infantry unit she'll have to hump a 60 pound ruck.

    That's why.
    Like I said - anyone who can meet the standards should get the job. Pretty simple concept.

    Apparently older male soldiers can't do it either - so why aren't they expelled?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Says who?

    Some females could. Some males couldn't. So you let whoever can meet the standards do it.

    Are you saying there are no jobs females can do in the military?

    Use logic.
    The males that can't do it get their butts kicked out and can't fall back on the, "they're being mean to me because I'm [write in your "oppressed" group of choice].
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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