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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Yes it is. Aren't we discussing our CURRENT military?

    The whining about possibly lowering standards to accept women is happening TODAY. Yet, the military has already lowered its standards to accept sub-par men for four or five years, now.

    The ZOMG! WE CAN'T LOWER MILITARY STANDARDS! argument falls flat.

    Not the physical standards, though.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not the physical standards, though.
    Actually they have. The physical requirements for a 35 year old male are different than that of a 20 year old male. At least in the Army it is that way.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I stand corrected. In my initial reply to this thread I did most definitely say females should not serve on subs unless they can pass the same physical qualifications as men.

    I will stand by this.

    I will also say to Red, she is correct on this as far as determining fitness for duty on the sub, but it does not apply to ground combat and it never will.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The dirty part of my mind just came to the fore.

    Must....resist....posting....further....
    Yeah, first thing I thought of too.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So they have not enlisted in the military? They are not subject to the UCMJ? Oh wait, yes they are, you are only creating an arbitrary distinction because your point does not actually work unless you do so, and even then falls apart because of this arbitrary distinction.
    Yet, doctors and nurses aren't required to perform weapons qual, nor soldier skills training. A fact that supports everything Blackdog has been saying.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually they have. The physical requirements for a 35 year old male are different than that of a 20 year old male. At least in the Army it is that way.
    That is for age. That is acceptable.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I think that people who are qualified to serve on a sub should be allowed to, and people who aren't qualified souldn't be allowed to.

    I know, crazy talk.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I think that people who are qualified to serve on a sub should be allowed to, and people who aren't qualified souldn't be allowed to.

    I know, crazy talk.
    Crazy as the Hatter!
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is for age. That is acceptable.
    Why is it acceptable?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Since the purpose is to measure overall fitness, and the different standards result in equal levels of fitness(cuz there are differences between the sexes), then in point of fact, they are measuring to equal standards.

    Or do you propose we eliminate differences for age in the standards too? Should that 40 year old chief have to meet the same standard as the 18 year old? Are you seeing how illogical your position is yet?

    I hope you're not trying to say that a woman who can only do 30 pushups is at the same physical fitness level of a man that can do 60 pushups.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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