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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

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    Then any female police officer in the US would also be a combat veteran.

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    That's an interesting reading of that paragraph.

    Are soldiers in Iraq on combat mode right now? Or are they patrolling/policing?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I then must ask...

    If some women met those standards, would you be fine with them in the military?
    In the military...yes. In the jobs they are currently barred from? No. No. No.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    How do you propose to staff military hospitals with nurses and doctors, when they fail to meet those standards?
    Hospitals? What standards? It's the hospital!!!

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Originally Posted by ADK_Forever
    Doesn't everyone on board have specific responsibilities? If a woman is in a slot isn't it safe to assume she has proven to be competent in that job? If she needs to carry heavy weight she can either do the job or not, just like a man, right?

    Women are performing all kinds of duties in the military that people thought they couldn't do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That said there are different requirements for men and women.......
    I'm not talking about PT requirements. I'm talking about day to day duties when assigned to a job. I doubt men and women have different responsibilities. If so, please describe.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Of course, talk to any man in the army they will tell you whether its obstacle courses or other physical requirements they are different.........

    Even in civilian life they are different and easier for women.......Why in golf do women tee off much closer to the pin or hole then men? Its easy its because men are stronger and can hit the ball farther.........

    Why can't women beat men in any sport that requires strength....Its the same thing..

    Anyone who thinks women can compete in any situation with a man where physical strength is involved is kidding theirselves......
    You didn't answer my question. Do women in the military reduce the effectiveness of the military because they commonly are physically weaker?

    I dont think the average physical weakness will mean that NO WOMEN would be able to serve on subs. There are plenty of very strong women that would be able to serve on a sub.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont think anyone is taking the position women shouldnt be in the military or that women shouldnt be allowed to do jobs that men do...just that the standards should be high...maintained high...and anyone...man or woman...that cant meet those standards should not be there.

    Personally...I'd be fine with the women in the navy on the subs (I really didnt know they werent already). I do have a problem with women knowing they are up for deployment and rotation and ending up pregnant just before they are scheduled out.
    My position, is that if women want to serve in the military, they should serve in all female units; even combat arms units.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I then must ask...

    If some women met those standards, would you be fine with them in the military?
    No, I wouldn't. Main reason being that barring females from certain units isn't about the question of a female's ability to do the same job as a male.

    It's about unit cohesion and security. It's hard enough to keep a soldier from sleeping at his post when he hasn't slept for two days. It's going to be even harder to keep a male and female soldier from ****ing while standing to post, if they're horny.

    How would you feel if the enemy infiltrated your perimeter because the male and female soldiers manning the forward observation post/ listening post (OP/LP) were too busy getting a nut and not looking and listening for enemy movement. That's called a, "breakdown in discipline".
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I wouldn't. Main reason being that barring females from certain units isn't about the question of a female's ability to do the same job as a male.

    It's about unit cohesion and security. It's hard enough to keep a soldier from sleeping at his post when he hasn't slept for two days. It's going to be even harder to keep a male and female soldier from ****ing while standing to post, if they're horny.

    How would you feel if the enemy infiltrated your perimeter because the male and female soldiers manning the forward observation post/ listening post (OP/LP) were too busy getting a nut and not looking and listening for enemy movement. That's called a, "breakdown in discipline".
    Are you actually suggesting that it's easier to suppress the urge to sleep than to have sex? Really?

    Come on. Masturbation works wonders if someone is having issues with not being able to control their sexual impulses when they are required to go without it for a couple of years, let alone a few days. Sleep, on the other hand, is a requirement for all of us. Go without sleep for a few days, and your body and brain start to literally shut down. You cannot survive without sleeping for so much time, generally a 5 days makes you sick. Scientists have said that 10-11 days will kill you. I don't think that could ever be said about sex. So if those men and women soldiers aren't professional enough to keep it in their pants for a few months or even a year or so or to, at the very least save it til they're off watch, then I think there's a major problem in our recruiting standards. I know on the boat we had some guys and girls caught while out to sea, but I don't recall any getting caught while on watch. That's just way not worth it and really, really stupid.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Are you actually suggesting that it's easier to suppress the urge to sleep than to have sex? Really?
    Oooohhhhhh, yeah.... I've lost alotta sleep, just so I could ****, in my lifetime.

    Come on. Masturbation works wonders if someone is having issues with not being able to control their sexual impulses when they are required to go without it for a couple of years, let alone a few days.
    Why jack-off when you have a female two feet away that is just as horny as you are?

    So if those men and women soldiers aren't professional enough to keep it in their pants for a few months or even a year or so or to, at the very least save it til they're off watch, then I think there's a major problem in our recruiting standards. I know on the boat we had some guys and girls caught while out to sea, but I don't recall any getting caught while on watch. That's just way not worth it and really, really stupid.
    We both know what the reality is, don't we?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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