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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    Neither of these present barriers to all women. Most/many, sure - but not all. That's the discriminatory bit.

    Pick the women who will do the job well - ones who are as competent as the men who currently serve. Don't pick the women who aren't good enough; it'd be daft to do it any other way. But don't discriminate purely on gender - as long as that gender is not an issue (hence the single-sex subs).

    Incidentally... any opinions on the fact that some of the current male submariners could well be DADT-ing?

    Surely when the subs were initially brought into use by the Navy (only just less than 100 years ago), the men in them had a similar lack of experience?

    If the US army has insufficient training facilities to prepare people for submarine life without actually putting them inside a live and active sub, shame on the US army.
    As for who serves on a sub, you don't pick them..they volunteer.....Every woman that volunteered would have to be and amazon like I said........
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I know I wouldn't want MY daughter serving on a sub.

    Operation Petticoat.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I know I wouldn't want MY daughter serving on a sub.

    Operation Petticoat.

    YouTube- It's either her or me in this engine room!
    You won't have anything to say about it..........
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Stupid, dumb, misguided and bad.

    That's what this idea is.

    Subs are small, their crews, smaller. What happens when they lose a gal cause she's pregnant? Eh? Say... 2 weeks before deployment? Hard to replace her with a well trained person ready to go. Happened on the Inchon quite a few times, we'd deploy and have departments and divisions short manned cause of this. And now we'll lift the ban on SUBS!

    Oh screw reality, readiness and all that mean evil ****, let's be PC!!!

    Whatever, glad I'm out and more so glad I ain't on subs, this would just piss me right the **** off.

    "We're sorry Petty Officer Vicchio, you're just gonna have to do more work and work harder cause Seaman Jones and White are both pregnant and can't deploy with us. We'll TRY to get someone on in Hawaii and you'll have plenty of time to train them up. I know I know, ya'll have 8 people and just lost 2, but hey we're a diverse Navy that doesn't discriminate, change your attitude mister!"


    Sometimes, I REALLY hate people.
    I know cause women are just running around popping off babies like its nobody's business, must have used too many public restrooms. And don't even consider for a second that women could possibly understand the need to preserve unit readiness and effectiveness, clearly that is something it takes a real man to do. And lastly we all know men never do stupid **** that could stop them from deploying or going out to sea.
    And if you're thinking to yourself, well women already serve on all other Navy vessels in all other roles and there's no 3rd world birth rate on those ships. WELL STOP because that's different, somehow.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You won't have anything to say about it..........

    What else is new?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Subs have P250 and P500 submersible pumps on them......they weigh about 150 lbs each.......A lot of guys can't carry them.......The only women who can would be amazons.....
    I have seen women Aviation Ordnancemen load 500 pound bombs, 3 women, one on each end with a length of pipe screwed in, 1 in the middle guiding it.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I seen some Navy women do some real freaky ****.

    But I'll never tell.

    God bless the Navy.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow
    The Left persists in this myth that there's nothing a man can do that a woman can't. Well, I'm sure the Left hasn't noticed, but men and women are different.
    There is a difference, but it all it means is that more men are likely to qualify for the job. That isn't a reason to deny a well-qualified (mentally and physically) woman, though.

    I'm absolutely certain the US Army does not have the facilities to train women for submarine duty.
    On what grounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyPride
    As for who serves on a sub, you don't pick them..they volunteer.....Every woman that volunteered would have to be and amazon like I said........
    If every one of them was physically fit enough (you can call them 'amazons' if you really like), and was competant in what they did, would you still object to them crewing a sub?

    I'm not suggesting we go out conscripting women. I'm suggesting that I see no reason why we should deny those who both want to do the job and would do the job well, purely because they were born with the wrong set of organs.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It's not like an Aircraft Carrier or other surface ship where they can sneak off to some secluded location for secret snuggle.
    Oh, yeah?

    On the Los Angeles Class:

    Engine Room Lower Level, outboard each Main Condenser. No one goes back there for hours.

    Engine Room Lower Level SSTG Lube Oil Bay Mezzanine. Quite Secluded.

    Engine Room Aft, just forward of the ERFW pumps, cozy. Better yet, there are two access ports to the Main Engine support structure that's just great for a nap or snuggle.

    Engine Room Aft, outboard the #3 and #4 R114 AC units. Good for a quicky.

    Engine Room Upper Level. Nucleonics Lab. Has a door that locks.

    Engine Room Upper Level. Behind the Nucleonics Labs, around the 10k Evaporator. Some quiet places, wink wink.

    Engine Room Upper Level, Charging Water Storage Tank Mezzine. Nice and warm up by MS1 and MS2, and the humidity will excuse the sweaty appearance.

    Engine Room Upper Level, outboard the main electrical switch gear.

    Engine Room Middle Level Forward, Outboard the #2 SSTG.

    Forward Compartment spaces.

    Each officer has a bunk. The captain and the XO have their own staterooms.

    The Fan Room deck is covered with neatly flaked out mooring lines. A padded floor, and noisy enough to cover the orgasmic moans.

    Most crew have their own bunk.

    The food storage room at the bottom of the Forward Escape Trunk.

    The supply shack.

    The torpedo room is usually quiet.

    The Auxilliary Machinery Room is ideal for women who get off on CO2 Scrubbers and electrolysis machines, and especially women who like getting banged standing against a Faribanks-Morse Diesel.

    The Battery Compartment for the enterprising electrician.

    The radio room.

    The Sonar Room.

    There's LOTS of places to play hide the submarine on a submarine.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    There is a difference, but it all it means is that more men are likely to qualify for the job. That isn't a reason to deny a well-qualified (mentally and physically) woman, though.
    No, the reason is that they don't fit on the damn boat.

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    On what grounds?
    I refuse to answer this question because it's just too god damned funny.

    You read it a few more times and maybe you can get your best buddy to help you figure it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    If every one of them was physically fit enough (you can call them 'amazons' if you really like), and was competant in what they did, would you still object to them crewing a sub?
    What if the moon was made out of cheddar cheese, would that cause an economic crash in Wisconsin?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    I'm not suggesting we go out conscripting women. I'm suggesting that I see no reason why we should deny those who both want to do the job and would do the job well, purely because they were born with the wrong set of organs.
    The reason is they don't fit. A submarine isn't a hunk of steel, it's a community of peers. Women don't belong in the military at the combat level, and a submarine is a combat warship.

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