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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The US military has females serving in AAA units. A female serving in corps arty isn't exactly a combat position.

    Just because a female serves in a, "combat unit", doesn't mean she is in a direct combat MOS, such as infantry, or armor, or sappers.
    They were forbidden to serve in these units until the report I posted above was submitted and put into practice. *sigh* So obviously, the IDF considered them to be combat positions before that.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ahh OK, I should have known.
    REALLY, you should have. I'm no commie feminazi.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    They were forbidden to serve in these units until the report I posted above was submitted and put into practice. *sigh* So obviously, the IDF considered them to be combat positions before that.
    I'm only asking how the IDF defines a, "combat position". You can't help me with that?
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    The military only has itself to blame for that.
    Hogwash. Blame society for trying to make sure everyone is 'equal'

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I'm not about to go through this military gender crap with you again.

    You have your viewpoint, I have my reality.

    That your viewpoint doesn't mesh with my reality is your problem. Not mine.

    I said what needed saying.

    Now... back to the regularly scheduled program.
    Wow...you 'weighed in' on a Military gender issue...he responded with a pretty potent dagger, and you respond by saying you arent going to get into a military/gender argument on a military/gender thread?

    Wheres that CAS when you need it???

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm only asking how the IDF defines a, "combat position". You can't help me with that?
    Unfortunately, the IDF doesn't post that definition. You of course can google for yourself, but as I said before, women were prohibited from these units until the recommendation were implemented.

    Quibble if you would like though:


    Women represent a significant portion of manpower in the combat units that they serve in; in the Anti-Aircraft Division and in the Artillery Corps, women represent 20 percent of soldiers, 25 percent of soldiers in Search and Rescue units, 10 percent of the Border Police, and the Caracal Battalion - a combat battalion - is made up of 70 percent female soldiers. In addition, this year marked the first year in which women are eligible to serve in the Field Intelligence Corps.


    The Border Police:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces]Israel Defense Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Other than the National Service (Sherut Leumi), IDF conscripts may serve in bodies other than the IDF in a number of ways. The combat option is Israel Border Police (Magav) service, part of the Israel Police. Some soldiers complete their IDF combat training and later undergo additional terror and Border Police training. These are assigned to Border Police units. The Border Police units fight side by side with the regular IDF combat units. They are also responsible for security in heavy urban areas such as Jerusalem.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The US military has females serving in AAA units. A female serving in corps arty isn't exactly a combat position.

    Just because a female serves in a, "combat unit", doesn't mean she is in a direct combat MOS, such as infantry, or armor, or sappers.
    I dont think anyone is taking the position women shouldnt be in the military or that women shouldnt be allowed to do jobs that men do...just that the standards should be high...maintained high...and anyone...man or woman...that cant meet those standards should not be there.

    Personally...I'd be fine with the women in the navy on the subs (I really didnt know they werent already). I do have a problem with women knowing they are up for deployment and rotation and ending up pregnant just before they are scheduled out.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I do have a problem with women knowing they are up for deployment and rotation and ending up pregnant just before they are scheduled out.
    That's nature for you.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let's see, she is a woman, she is(was?) in the IDF, was in combat...I find her experiences relevant and credible.
    Which has little or nothing to do with anything I have said in this entire thread.

    So, she got nothing.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Yes it has.


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    In part: Integration of women in the IDF March 2009


    There has been a clear trend of increase in the participation of women in the different military sectors. Today, women represent a third of all IDF soldiers, and can be deployed in 90 percent of all positions within the IDF. These statistics were published by the IDF Women’s Affairs Advisor, Brig. Gen. Yehudit Grissaro, on Sunday (March 8), in celebration of International Women's Day. Brig. Gen. Grissaro also announced that women represent 26 percent of all officers and 12 percent of all NCOs, and women are able to serve in 10 different combat positions.

    Today women constitute 20% of career officers and 33% of compulsory service personnel, as opposed to 31% in 1995. In addition, there has been a moderate increase in the representation of women in every rank in the IDF. The percentage of women lieutenant colonels increased from 7% to 12.5%.

    Women represent a significant portion of manpower in the combat units that they serve in; in the Anti-Aircraft Division and in the Artillery Corps, women represent 20 percent of soldiers, 25 percent of soldiers in Search and Rescue units, 10 percent of the Border Police, and the Caracal Battalion - a combat battalion - is made up of 70 percent female soldiers. In addition, this year marked the first year in which women are eligible to serve in the Field Intelligence Corps.
    At presant no woman is serving in a combat arms style MOS in the IDF.
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