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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hence the whole issue with why females should not be in combat.
    That's odd. I served twice in hot combat zones. Gaza/Lebanon.

    M-4, Glock sidearm, comm links, and a laptop. Hoofing it with the grunts.

    None of the grunts perished due to my presence.

    On the contrary, I saved their collective grunt asses numerous times.

    I never had a bar-tab. The grunts always took care of that.

    You see Blackdog, when you're in the suck and getting your grunt ass kicked, a CAS officer (of either gender) is your very best friend.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    That's odd. I served twice in hot combat zones. Gaza/Lebanon.

    M-4, Glock sidearm, comm links, and a laptop. Hoofing it with the grunts.

    None of the grunts perished due to my presence.

    On the contrary, I saved their collective grunt asses numerous times.

    I never had a bar-tab. The grunts always took care of that.

    You see Blackdog, when you're in the suck and getting your grunt ass kicked, a CAS officer (of either gender) is your very best friend.
    No one is saying a few could not do it. You are completely missing my point.

    Please explain why the Israeli military removed females from combat units since 1950?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No one is saying a few could not do it. You are completely missing my point.

    Please explain why the Israeli military removed females from combat units?
    I'm not about to go through this military gender crap with you again.

    You have your viewpoint, I have my reality.

    That your viewpoint doesn't mesh with my reality is your problem. Not mine.

    I said what needed saying.

    Now... back to the regularly scheduled program.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    That's odd. I served twice in hot combat zones. Gaza/Lebanon.

    M-4, Glock sidearm, comm links, and a laptop. Hoofing it with the grunts.

    None of the grunts perished due to my presence.

    On the contrary, I saved their collective grunt asses numerous times.

    I never had a bar-tab. The grunts always took care of that.

    You see Blackdog, when you're in the suck and getting your grunt ass kicked, a CAS officer (of either gender) is your very best friend.
    You allowed enlisted soldiers to buy you drinks?

    Wow! That wouldn't fly in the United States military.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No one is saying a few could not do it. You are completely missing my point.

    Please explain why the Israeli military removed females from combat units since 1950?
    Because they discovered that males soldiers would linger over a wounded female soldier who was beyond help, more than they would another male soldier, thereby causing them to fall out of the attack and weaken the assault force's mission.

    The Israelis discovered that it's a fact that men will take un-necessary risks to protect female soldiers, thereby causing even more casualties.

    There's some reality for ya's.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I'm not about to go through this military gender crap with you again.

    You have your viewpoint, I have my reality.

    That your viewpoint doesn't mesh with my reality is your problem. Not mine.

    I said what needed saying.

    Now... back to the regularly scheduled program.
    As S-2 Air, where were you posted? Battalion? Brigade? CASO's don't hang with a line unit.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No one is saying a few could not do it. You are completely missing my point.

    Please explain why the Israeli military removed females from combat units since 1950?

    But in 2007:

    Combat service for women - Israel Culture, Ynetnews

    The committee was appointed by the head of the human resources department Major-General Elazar Stern, and is set to give its recommendations in the next few days. Members of the committee ascertained that men and women will be assigned identical positions during their military service based on set criteria and the recruits' personal attributes, rather then gender. Namely, men and women will have equal opportunities throughout the military establishment.


    Nontheless, assigning women to combat units will be based on professional and medical criteria. The duration of military service for men and women will be identical and in accordance with decisions pertaining to the period of service.


    "There will be no units barred to women in the IDF because they are women," notes the report. Members of the committee have determined that only the defense minister will be able to decide whether a specific unit will be closed to women, and this includes all the combat units, battalions and elite units which are currently barred to women.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Be specific.

    Black men are men, and there's no sigificant biological differences between black men and white men.

    Women aren't men and integrating them into the force requires adjustments to logistics and shipboard engineering. Especially on submarines.

    What advantage is gained with the added expenditure and higher risk?
    That's not the way the Navy saw it during WWII:

    "the enlistment of Negroes (other than as mess attendants) leads to disruptive and undermining conditions."

    The Navy at first continued to insist on the exclusion of Negroes from general service, arguing that Negroes were not as adaptable or efficient as whites, and that segregation on shipboard was not feasible.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    But in 2007:

    Combat service for women - Israel Culture, Ynetnews

    The committee was appointed by the head of the human resources department Major-General Elazar Stern, and is set to give its recommendations in the next few days. Members of the committee ascertained that men and women will be assigned identical positions during their military service based on set criteria and the recruits' personal attributes, rather then gender. Namely, men and women will have equal opportunities throughout the military establishment.


    Nontheless, assigning women to combat units will be based on professional and medical criteria. The duration of military service for men and women will be identical and in accordance with decisions pertaining to the period of service.


    "There will be no units barred to women in the IDF because they are women," notes the report. Members of the committee have determined that only the defense minister will be able to decide whether a specific unit will be closed to women, and this includes all the combat units, battalions and elite units which are currently barred to women.
    But in 2010, still has not happened has it?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    That's not the way the Navy saw it during WWII:
    Again you are talking about men? You can read what we are typing, correct?

    Are you trying to say men and women are physically and emotionally the same?

    You have still posted nothing at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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