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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    That's what many of us have been saying all along.

    But even that won't appease those who want females out. There's no satisfying them.
    Simple question...why do you think they have continually been lowering the standards...not just in the military but in society? And what impact does that have on the positions when the standards are unified but lowered?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Dammit get it right! We don't want females out. We realize the PC crowed in this country will not let the standards be equalized because of attrition. So far it has never happened, ever. The standards have been relentlessly dropped in the civilian world as well.

    Stop ignoring the reality and get your head out of your ass and listen to what we are saying.
    Reread what I said. I never said all.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You need to read the rest of my posts.

    Realistically as I have said over and over, it will not be done.

    Post #314 would also be helpful.
    The jobs you mention would not require much equalization in the way of standards. We are talking about creating combat category jobs where the standards for men and women would be identical, and where women could VOLUNTARILY apply for the job.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    It's not why I got out.

    I never went to war. Vietnam was just ending and they were no longer sending troops there.

    Never heard of title 10. I was active duty Army.
    OK...that makes sense. And I dont disrespect your service...Im grateful for it. Todays military is just a TEENSY bit different than post Nam 70's and 80's. Combat field packs weigh damn near as much as many female soldiers. The fighting conditions are radically different. Its truly a different time and military.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Simple question...why do you think they have continually been lowering the standards...not just in the military but in society? And what impact does that have on the positions when the standards are unified but lowered?
    Because they're stupid and unwilling to fight for the correct solution. Lowered standards is the easy way out ..but the wrong way.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    OK...that makes sense. And I dont disrespect your service...Im grateful for it. Todays military is just a TEENSY bit different than post Nam 70's and 80's. Combat field packs weigh damn near as much as many female soldiers. The fighting conditions are radically different. Its truly a different time and military.
    The standards should not be lowered. However, they should be realistic.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Reread what I said. I never said all.
    I did not say you did. I said we don't want females out, and we don't. We also realize females in combat units is a very bad idea and have stated why with evidence no less.

    So far the opposing views have been backed up by allot of lofty talk of equality that in the real world will not happen.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The standards should not be lowered. However, they should be realistic.
    And I rest my case.

    Could not have asked for a better example.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The standards should not be lowered. However, they should be realistic.
    What does that mean?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I think this is one of the few exceptions we should place on women serving. There are a couple reasons but the biggest is that most men and women are not able to suppress their sexual desires. There WILL be trouble with rape and pregnancy, regardless of sexual orientation.

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