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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't know if you guys have ever been on nuclear powered sub but there is no room on them......I got a tour of the USS OHIO a trident sub by the Chief of the Boat in 1981.....I can honestly tell you the only way women can serve on a subs if they have their own......The boats are so small the guys hot bunk on them (guys share racks). a surface ship is like a luxery llner when compared to a submarine......

    A problem with having their own subs is and all women crew could not handle the physical requirements involved...........Another huge problem will be wth the wives of the guys serving on the subs........They will never put up with it....trust me...........

    Let's put it this way....the Ohio is a BIG submarine. When it was sitting on the dock at EB, you could see it was enormous compared to the Los Angeles class boats built around it.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    What opposition would there be to subs manned (no pun intended) by an all-female crew? To my mind at least, that would solve most issues...
    My wife told me abotu the "alpha female" syndrome, where a strong female leader in a group can have an effect on other females in the group. I.E. they all PMS on HER scheduale. Now I have no clue if this is actually true, but do you REALLY want to chance a submarine where 5 days a month the women are in total bitch mode?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    What opposition would there be to subs manned (no pun intended) by an all-female crew? To my mind at least, that would solve most issues...
    There are a lot of situations aboard a sub that takes physical strength....Most women don't have it...
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Subs have P250 and P500 submersible pumps on them......they weigh about 150 lbs each.......A lot of guys can't carry them.......The only women who can would be amazons.....
    It'll be the TDU weight loads.

    All the crew have to hand-to-hand those things down into the boat. We loaded them by the ton, and there were eight ten-pound steel disks in each box. They have to be handed down vertical ladders, and we lost the tallest man on the boat, because, naturally, he was placed at the bottom, and the man above him dropped a box. Didn't kill him, just destroyed his shoulder.

    How many women are going to be standing at the bottom of THOSE ladders, hmmmm?

    I got the COB to loan me three seamen so we could carry eight R-114 refill cylnders down from the McKee, the tender. They weighed forty-five pounds apeice, there wasn't a truck handy, and after we hiked them over, little old me had to climb into the damnedest places to hoist them into their stowage brackets. How much help is the lady Machinist's Mate going to need to do her job as the ships Air Conditioning technician?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There are a lot of situations aboard a sub that takes physical strength....Most women don't have it...
    But people don't get that. It has become wrong to say that a women are not as strong as men. And that women can do the same as a man, they can't and that is considered offensive. Sometimes its the best thing to let men take care of thing like working in a sub. Gosh it boggles my mind

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    What opposition would there be to subs manned (no pun intended) by an all-female crew? To my mind at least, that would solve most issues...

    You mean besides the fact that they first have to serve on some other boat to get the experience needed to do what you're saying?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Let's put it this way....the Ohio is a BIG submarine. When it was sitting on the dock at EB, you could see it was enormous compared to the Los Angeles class boats built around it.
    The Ohio has been converted to a platform type ship from a Trident.....They need a lot of space to launch the Tomahawk missiles...........I have been down in the berthing compartments of both the crew and the chiefs with the COB....Trust me there is no room......

    Its kind of ironic that we are talking about the OHIO because I was at a change of command ceromony for her last Friday.........
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    But people don't get that. It has become wrong to say that a women are not as strong as men. And that women can do the same as a man, they can't and that is considered offensive. Sometimes its the best thing to let men take care of thing like working in a sub. Gosh it boggles my mind
    The only comment I can make is that where I work, physical labor is the norm and women are twice as likely to have worker's comp issues than men. The average age where I work is 43.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    What opposition would there be to subs manned (no pun intended) by an all-female crew? To my mind at least, that would solve most issues...
    That's what I'd suggest. However, the only problem is there are no experienced female submarine officers and seamen (seawoman? seaperson?) to crew a submarine. Unless we do an officer exchange program that allows our female officers to serve on submarines of foreign countries with all-female submarine crews, we'll have to allow a few mixed crews just to allow females to gain experience to pass on to an all-female crew later.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    But people don't get that. It has become wrong to say that a women are not as strong as men. And that women can do the same as a man, they can't and that is considered offensive. Sometimes its the best thing to let men take care of thing like working in a sub. Gosh it boggles my mind
    That is why the senior officers are gutless..........If you ask them on the record a lot of them will say go for it, they can do it..........If you ask them off the record its a different story.....They know not agreeing with the big shots could be the kiss of death for a promotion or even their career........
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