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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Please point out where adjusting the physical requirements in the cases of police, fire, etc. has affected at large the performance of these groups overall for the negative? I have to say I'm pretty taken aback by how prevalent sexism still is.
    The point is if the job requires you to be able to lift x. You should be able to lift x to do the job. If you lower the standard for females, then why not for a male who can't meet the male standard but can the female standard?

    It all goes back to what the job requires. If you can meet the standards and are the best qualified, then you should be hired.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    males and females are different mentally and physically. Why is this so hard to accept?
    It has been accepted. What you seem to be struggling to accept is the fact that even so, there are some women who are stronger than most men - and you continue to revert to steriotypes in order for you to further your disbelief.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    It has been accepted. What you seem to be struggling to accept is the fact that even so, there are some women who are stronger than most men - and you continue to revert to steriotypes in order for you to further your disbelief.
    I agree that some women are stronger than some men. I believe that if a job has a defined physical requirement as long as anyone can meet the standard they should be considered for the job when they apply. I do not believe in having two different standards for the job based on the gender of the applicant.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I agree that some women are stronger than some men. I believe that if a job has a defined physical requirement as long as anyone can meet the standard they should be considered for the job when they apply. I do not believe in having two different standards for the job based on the gender of the applicant.
    Neither do I.

    Assuming those standards are not specifically tailored to prevent females from passing, as I assume it would be possible to do.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I believe that if a job has a defined physical requirement as long as anyone can meet the standard they should be considered for the job when they apply. I do not believe in having two different standards for the job based on the gender of the applicant.
    Phyiscal, mental and whatever other criteria you want to throw in, but... 100% agree.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I agree that some women are stronger than some men. I believe that if a job has a defined physical requirement as long as anyone can meet the standard they should be considered for the job when they apply. I do not believe in having two different standards for the job based on the gender of the applicant.
    I agree.

    How many more times does this need to be expressed before the dissenters realize this is the only fair way to go?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Stupid, dumb, misguided and bad.

    That's what this idea is.

    Subs are small, their crews, smaller. What happens when they lose a gal cause she's pregnant? Eh? Say... 2 weeks before deployment? Hard to replace her with a well trained person ready to go. Happened on the Inchon quite a few times, we'd deploy and have departments and divisions short manned cause of this. And now we'll lift the ban on SUBS!
    Exactly.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I agree.

    How many more times does this need to be expressed before the dissenters realize this is the only fair way to go?
    Never thought I'd see you put fairness above effectiveness. I've stated before I have nothing against women, but this is about national defense and national security. NOTHING should come before the effectiveness of our military. If women can fit in without undue burden upon military effectiveness and costs, fine. If not, the military shouldn't be burden with whining.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    It has been accepted. What you seem to be struggling to accept is the fact that even so, there are some women who are stronger than most men - and you continue to revert to steriotypes in order for you to further your disbelief.
    Of course there are some but they are the exception rather then the rule.........
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Of course there are some but they are the exception rather then the rule.........
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