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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    To be honest, if I put most of the guys in this thread arguing against women being allowed on a sub in a situation where they had to be in direct combat with Tashah, I'd put my money on Tash.

    Just sayin'.
    Tashah is NOT your ordinary woman.....

    Hey, we already have gay men on subs, why not women?
    I was on a Fast Attack back in the late 60's. Just among the Reactor Operators there were 3 or 4 who liked to play grabass....
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Tashah is NOT your ordinary woman.....

    Hey, we already have gay men on subs, why not women?
    I was on a Fast Attack back in the late 60's. Just among the Reactor Operators there were 3 or 4 who liked to play grabass....
    Did they have permission?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I do not mean to sound sexist but I do not think women could pass the training Navy SEALS go through. I really do not. The difference between a SEAL and everybody else in the Navy is the difference between you riding your bike and Lance Armstrong riding his bike. It is not the same thing. At all. I mean you're both doing the same thing. But you're really not.
    Of course women would pass the training the men go threough to become a SEAL. The military would be forced to lower the requirements until women could pass.

    They did it with the firemen, they did it with the cops. They'll do it with the SEALS if they get a chance.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    We need to separate the conversation slightly...

    Women on subs is a "housing" and sex issue.
    A Los Angeles class submarine has one head on the Foward Compartment Lower Level, and a bunk room for 21 men. The head has one toilet, one rain locker, one sink.

    The Forward Comparment Middle Level has two connected bunk rooms where the rest of the enlisted bunk. The connection is the head. This head has one urinal, three toilets, two showers, three sinks.

    The Chiefs are also on this level. The Goat Locker has twelve bunks, one head with one toilet, one shower, one sink.

    The junior officers bunks and Wardroom are on this level, they share one head, with one toilet, one shower, and I can't recall if their two-man bunkrooms have sinks or not.

    The XO and the CO are berthed in staterooms just forward of the Control Room.

    Over 100 men, E-6 and below, share four toilets, one urinal, three showers and four sinks.

    There ZERO facilities for split-tails.

    Got it, people?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Women in the infantry, et al is a physical issue.
    Nah, there's the sleeping and hygeine issues there, as well.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    The same sexist attitude that says women aren't the equal of men is also the same sexist attitude that makes allowances for them as per your examples.
    Women aren't the equal of men.

    one word proves this:

    Pregnancy.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    A Los Angeles class submarine has one head on the Foward Compartment Lower Level, and a bunk room for 21 men. The head has one toilet, one rain locker, one sink.

    The Forward Comparment Middle Level has two connected bunk rooms where the rest of the enlisted bunk. The connection is the head. This head has one urinal, three toilets, two showers, three sinks.

    The Chiefs are also on this level. The Goat Locker has twelve bunks, one head with one toilet, one shower, one sink.

    The junior officers bunks and Wardroom are on this level, they share one head, with one toilet, one shower, and I can't recall if their two-man bunkrooms have sinks or not.

    The XO and the CO are berthed in staterooms just forward of the Control Room.

    Over 100 men, E-6 and below, share four toilets, one urinal, three showers and four sinks.

    There ZERO facilities for split-tails.

    Got it, people?



    Nah, there's the sleeping and hygeine issues there, as well.
    Thanks for the education...I have a little better understanding of what you are dealing with now. Agreed.

    Goddamn, how the hell do you guys not get stir-crazy in there?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Of course women would pass the training the men go threough to become a SEAL. The military would be forced to lower the requirements until women could pass.

    They did it with the firemen, they did it with the cops. They'll do it with the SEALS if they get a chance.
    The EFFECTIVENESS of the military is entire irrelevant. The important things are diversity, fairness, open life-styles and feelgoodness.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Females cannot do the same physical job as men in most cases. Military life aggravates this difference. Actual ground combat aggravates it to the breaking point.
    Then per your examples, your gripe is with your employers for having such sexist attitudes and failing to hold female employees to the same standards as male employees for a particular job.

    As to the military, all standards within any given MOS should be the same regardless of gender.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Then per your examples, your gripe is with your employers for having such sexist attitudes and failing to hold female employees to the same standards as male employees for a particular job.

    As to the military, all standards within any given MOS should be the same regardless of gender.
    Sure, there's only one Field Manual right? Does everyone apply it the exact same?
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sure, there's only one Field Manual right? Does everyone apply it the exact same?
    Who's fault is it if someone with substandard scores is placed into that MOS?

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