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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Is that a challenge? You do not know me nor do you know what I can or cannot do. Til then? You can shut your face.
    I know 90% of the females out there would have no chance. The other 9% mite give me a good run. About 1% could actually beat me. I also know more about you than you think.

    So like I said, until you can kick my ass...
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    From what I've read in different new stories about this. This decision has nothing to do with any kind of political correctness. Its not coming from the President its coming from the SECDEF and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and no one can accuse our military leaders of putting political correctness of sound military decisions.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    I think what rivrrat is trying to say is that:

    Some, perhaps only the tiniest minority of, but some, women can do 99% of the things men can do. Perhaps that tiny 1% of things women can't do should be limited to men.

    But not based on sex.

    Based on ability.

    If the women can't hack it, then they can't hack it, and shouldn't be allowed into the situation where their lack of strength/whatever puts others in jeopardy.

    Regarding the females on subs bit:

    I believe she is attempting to say that it is unnecessary to retrofit/modify the subs. Leave things the way they are, just change the navy regs on coed situations.

    Let em all shower together, no need for coed facilities.

    If the men get hard-on's, let em go wack off, and both parties should just laugh it off, as it is a natural reaction and only a small minority of men can control it in all situations.

    If a women was going to complain about such, she shouldn't be on the sub to begin with.

    Or...something.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Blacks served in the US military since the Civil War, in combat units.

    Sorry, no dice.



    They were in "segregated units." and served in the US military since the civil war.

    See Examples...

    54th Massachusetts Infantry
    92nd Division
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    Man you really need to study your history.



    I find it comical that people who have no idea were we have been as a country, want to guide us blindly into the future without a clue. How can you tell us where to go when you have no idea where we have been?

    My view has nothing to do with discrimination or bigotry. It has to do with understanding that males and females are (unlike racial differences) built completely different. Females are not built for the rigors or stresses of combat, men are. Simple FACT.
    Oh my God; you mean there were black people around during the Civil War?

    You're right, I do need to pick up a history book

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Oh my God; you mean there were black people around during the Civil War?


    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    You're right, I do need to pick up a history book
    You should see "Glory" it was a well done movie on the fighting 54th during the Civil War. Great movie!
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I think the time has come to allow women to serve in all areas of the armed services, including subs.
    Lookiung back at how some of the T-34 Soviet tank drivers and operators were women, I can see the sense in this. Women have been to war - World War and beaten their German male counterparts.

    We could apply the same argument about cramped quarters, difficult conditions and heavy lifting but I believe quite a few women served on the front line against Panzer and Tiger tanks on the European mainland.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    The women can be in charge of the torpedo room.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You will forgive me if I don't buy that? The SEAL's I have known, would rip your head off and shove your raft up your ass.

    Hey, I could be wrong.






    Not......
    Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what they would have done in the middle of a whitewater river trip.



    Not.....


    What they did do, instead, was ask me to stop flipping the raft and making them swim all of the rapids.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think what rivrrat is trying to say is that:

    Some, perhaps only the tiniest minority of, but some, women can do 99% of the things men can do. Perhaps that tiny 1% of things women can't do should be limited to men.

    But not based on sex.

    Based on ability.

    If the women can't hack it, then they can't hack it, and shouldn't be allowed into the situation where their lack of strength/whatever puts others in jeopardy.

    Regarding the females on subs bit:

    I believe she is attempting to say that it is unnecessary to retrofit/modify the subs. Leave things the way they are, just change the navy regs on coed situations.

    Let em all shower together, no need for coed facilities.

    If the men get hard-on's, let em go wack off, and both parties should just laugh it off, as it is a natural reaction and only a small minority of men can control it in all situations.

    If a women was going to complain about such, she shouldn't be on the sub to begin with.

    Or...something.
    I thought that was exactly what I said. But, yeah.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Here is a good example of one reason I am so against females being in ground combat. (not so much against the sub thing, but it has it's own set of issues)

    Back many years ago I was working at a temp agency. I had a friend April who worked with me at the different sites.

    April made the same amount of money I did per hour.

    It never failed that when we went to a new site she would end up doing something like putting small electronic parts into a little box. It was hot in the plant so they gave her a fan and a chair. I on the other hand was in the same heat in the same plant strapping Bobcat front ends to pallets by myself. Same amount of pay.

    Even working at other company's as a regular employee it would go the same. I am breaking my back, some female is sitting down doing much of nothing for the same amount of money. Same job title, same pay, very different work loads.

    Now jump ahead to the Army. Fat out of shape females were the norm. They could barely do a female push up, let alone a real one. Or little skinny females that could barely lift an M16A2 and fire it correctly. I did not see many females I would want beside me in a combat situation. Hell, I saw many men I did not want to be beside but it was the exception, rather than the rule.

    I know plenty of females that could handle it and did even back then. I am pretty certain Riverrat, for example would make a fine combat solider, but she is the exception rather than the rule.

    I just don't see any gains or benefits for putting women in combat or even subs.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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