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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Since they are both male it was quite different.

    Apples and oranges.
    I see; just a different kind of discrimination

    What changed in the military during the late 40's to warrant overturning discrimination on the basis of race? Did white soldiers become more enlightened? Did someone discover that blacks were actually capable of doing jobs other than personal aids and truck drivers?

    I always find it comical to watch how people rationalize their own bigotries and justify discrimination on that basis.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I tell you what. The day you can kick my ass, you can call me sexist, OK?

    In fact the day you can carry the same load, run 10 miles as fast etc. Then and only then can you call me sexist.
    Is that a challenge? You do not know me nor do you know what I can or cannot do. Til then? You can shut your face.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Nah, if it make you feel good go for it but there will be no women seals....take that to the bank,,,,,,,,
    We can all agree that it would be GREAT if there could be. But it ain't NEVER gonna happen. Never. UNLESS, they are like some kinda super-brain runnin' the intel, from a safe place, far removed. Up close and personal, though, ain't never gonna happen. Blame God if you have to.

    I love women. They certainly are NOT the WEAKER sex. In fact, the opposite might be true. I have seen a 100 lb. women take a cockstrong, 220 lb. man, to his knees in heart break. They got the power, fo' sho. But in a S.E.A.L.'s type of operation, there aint no place for a woman, unless she is in a safe place, calling the shots.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Stupid, dumb, misguided and bad.

    That's what this idea is.

    Subs are small, their crews, smaller. What happens when they lose a gal cause she's pregnant? Eh? Say... 2 weeks before deployment? Hard to replace her with a well trained person ready to go. Happened on the Inchon quite a few times, we'd deploy and have departments and divisions short manned cause of this. And now we'll lift the ban on SUBS!

    Oh screw reality, readiness and all that mean evil ****, let's be PC!!!

    Whatever, glad I'm out and more so glad I ain't on subs, this would just piss me right the **** off.

    "We're sorry Petty Officer Vicchio, you're just gonna have to do more work and work harder cause Seaman Jones and White are both pregnant and can't deploy with us. We'll TRY to get someone on in Hawaii and you'll have plenty of time to train them up. I know I know, ya'll have 8 people and just lost 2, but hey we're a diverse Navy that doesn't discriminate, change your attitude mister!"


    Sometimes, I REALLY hate people.
    When I was a small child my grandma sat me down and explained to me many of the harsh realities of the world. One of which was:

    Women are crueler. The only reason why men wage war better than women is because one man can impregnate many women. And men don't get pregnant when raped.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    impregnate
    Dude. Please. Now I gotta wiki?

    Oh......


    Nevermind.

    I get it.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Goyboy View Post
    Women on a submarine worked for Tony Curtis.



    For example . . .
    YouTube- Operation Petticoat Preview

    [Trivia Fact: Tony's daughter Jamie appeared in the TV version of Operation Petticoat.]
    Dude...

    I already went there.....


    See posts back.

    Just sayin'.

    Suppose great minds think alike?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't know if you guys have ever been on nuclear powered sub but there is no room on them......I got a tour of the USS OHIO a trident sub by the Chief of the Boat in 1981.....I can honestly tell you the only way women can serve on a subs if they have their own......The boats are so small the guys hot bunk on them (guys share racks). a surface ship is like a luxery llner when compared to a submarine......

    A problem with having their own subs is and all women crew could not handle the physical requirements involved...........Another huge problem will be wth the wives of the guys serving on the subs........They will never put up with it....trust me...........
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh?

    How many hours you spend at test depth, non-qual?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    My wife told me abotu the "alpha female" syndrome, where a strong female leader in a group can have an effect on other females in the group. I.E. they all PMS on HER scheduale. Now I have no clue if this is actually true, but do you REALLY want to chance a submarine where 5 days a month the women are in total bitch mode?
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There are a lot of situations aboard a sub that takes physical strength....Most women don't have it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It'll be the TDU weight loads.

    All the crew have to hand-to-hand those things down into the boat. We loaded them by the ton, and there were eight ten-pound steel disks in each box. They have to be handed down vertical ladders, and we lost the tallest man on the boat, because, naturally, he was placed at the bottom, and the man above him dropped a box. Didn't kill him, just destroyed his shoulder.

    How many women are going to be standing at the bottom of THOSE ladders, hmmmm?

    I got the COB to loan me three seamen so we could carry eight R-114 refill cylnders down from the McKee, the tender. They weighed forty-five pounds apeice, there wasn't a truck handy, and after we hiked them over, little old me had to climb into the damnedest places to hoist them into their stowage brackets. How much help is the lady Machinist's Mate going to need to do her job as the ships Air Conditioning technician?
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The Ohio has been converted to a platform type ship from a Trident.....They need a lot of space to launch the Tomahawk missiles...........I have been down in the berthing compartments of both the crew and the chiefs with the COB....Trust me there is no room......

    Its kind of ironic that we are talking about the OHIO because I was at a change of command ceromony for her last Friday.........
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have seen women Aviation Ordnancemen load 500 pound bombs, 3 women, one on each end with a length of pipe screwed in, 1 in the middle guiding it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't thank Scarecrow often, but every so often he says something really great, and this is just such a post. Accurate and amusing in one nice package.

    By the way, as any one who has served on a carrier will tell you, with 6000 people, there are very few places without heavy traffic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    When you are at General Quarters and your GQ station is to man a P250 or P500 pump on a damage control team you have to carry it down into a compartment to fight a fire there is no one to help you..its your job.....I know because my first GQ station was to man a P250 pump on the destroyer I was on.......

    Big difference Redress......

    Another problem as someone mentioned would be handling gas bottles...I don't know how many they have on a sub but on a destroyer they have a store room full and they all have to be loaded and stowed manually and those babies are heavy as hell....Not easy work for a big strong man let alone a 100 pound woman when the bottles weigh twice as much as she does.........
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I know I had no problem finding a cubby hole, to get my freak on, when I was in the Navy. Ahhh, the memories.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Let's see.....0215 Engine Room Lower Level. This watch station is huge, encompassing the SSTG LO Bay, the Condensate Bay, the PLO Bay, the MSW Bay, the ASW Bay, and all of Engine Room Middle Level Aft, almost half the engine room.

    The hourly logs have been taken....that takes three minutes. The #2 LOP was shut down, cleaned, and put to work on the Starboard SSTG LO Sump. The PLO Strainer got it's daily cleaning at 0030, the Port SSTG LO Strainer was cleaned at 0120, the Starboard SSTG LO Strainer was cleaned at 0140. It took 30 seconds to shift from #1 and #2 Condensate Pumps to #3 and #4, which was done at 0010. It took five minutes to shift from #1 and #2 R114 AC units to #3 and #4, which was done at 0024. The ship is currently cruining at PD off the coast of China on routine patrol, no manuvers are expected this midwatch.

    There is NOTHING left to do for the next four hours but take those hourly logs. Fifty seven minutes of each of the next four hours will be spent trying to find something interesting to do, and failing. This is when the ERLL watch pulls his spinal tap syringe from his pocket (the ELT's use them for boiler water oxygen sampling) and he climbs up to be under the Main Engine aft journal bearing, because he knows the Engine Room Upper Level watch has to put his face right THERE to read that thermometer. So you squirt him. He'll try to squirt you when you're reading the ERFW pump outlet thermometer.

    It's not only distinctly possible to see the Engine Room Supervisor, the Engineering Watch Supervisor, and the Auxiliary Electrician Aft before they see you, but fairly easy to move around the watch station to hide from them, a game most ERLL watches play. But this time, when the Engine Room Supervisor comes down, the Lower Level watch and he get together. The EWS is supervising the Engineering Laboratory Techician's reactor sample, and that pins the EOOW in the Manuvering Room for nearly half an hour. The AE aft is cool, he has a thing with the cook that he doesn't want to mess up. So there's no problem sneaking back behind the condensers for a little fun.

    THAT's how it will work on a submarine.



    Glad to see a non-qual has some "facts".

    I got my dolphins a long time ago, I don't need someone who hasn't lived the life to tell me "facts".
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    1. and if you had and all female sub? There are very few women who could lift one of those pumps....

    You crack me up......Before you get all defensive......It does not make a rats ass whether women serve on subs or not.............I am just telling you from what I know about it though my experience it would be hard as hell to accomplish....Now go take your attitude to your room........
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I went to a survival school At Warner Springs in the moutains of California one year and it was 20 below.......There were 6 Seals in our class and you don't know the half of it......I almost thought those guys were not human......
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah, right...........

    Since we are telling sea stories, I saw a training film on Navy Seals one time it included guys jumpimg off 12 story buildings. Parachuting with half chutes so they could get down faster//////going on 100 mile hikes.........living off the land, escape and evasion (I was there for this) eating roots, roaches, ants, spiders...I ate the roots but starved otherwise...Lost 20 lbs in 5 days.........
    To all of you above... apparently none of what you say actually means anything in this thread. Well, to Hatuey, anyway.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Instead of relying on their personal experience like it actually means anything to anybody.
    So you should probably stop before he starts calling you names. It's like... scary and stuff and you might cry.


    And, Navy, regarding your SEAL story... we took SEALS down the river frequently because they apparently liked to do whitewater training together. Most of the ones I met were cool. But the bastards I had in my raft that one day were not. And I **** you not that it was my goal that day to make them cry uncle, and I succeeded. ****ers didn't know what they were doing when they pissed off their guide at the beginning of a 24 mile, Class V run in an Extreme raft.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    When they babies submerge they stay submerged until their patrol is over.........
    You see? That's what a lotta people can't wrap their head around.

    In the Navy, love is great. We all love babies. It's a helluva family.

    But going in, no matter what door you enter, you have to sign off on a concept known as "Need of the Navy." In short, that means, the navy will do what it can to better the needs of it's members, BUT, before YOUR needs, ALWAYS comes the NEEDS OF THE NAVY. Don't sign on if you can't deliver. Sad to say, but that means babies too.

    PLUS... the wisdom teeth gotta go. Don't care. Growing in perfectly? Tough ****. They're gonna get yanked. Deal with it. You're on the red team? Bring tampons. You're going down. Your #1 song will be # 38 by the time you surface, IF it's a good song.

    Bon Voyage.

    ****. Chicks in the fleet are enough of a distraction (God love a distraction..huhhh...huhh.uh..uhhhu.hh..) but on a sub? ****ing rediculous.

    Gawd damn. I miss the fleet. I would give my left nut to be floatin' in the Persian Gulf on the ' Toga again.

    Know what I mean NP? You old ass salt, you.


    Sigh...................
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post


    And, Navy, regarding your SEAL story... we took SEALS down the river frequently because they apparently liked to do whitewater training together. Most of the ones I met were cool. But the bastards I had in my raft that one day were not. And I **** you not that it was my goal that day to make them cry uncle, and I succeeded. ****ers didn't know what they were doing when they pissed off their guide at the beginning of a 24 mile, Class V run in an Extreme raft.
    You will forgive me if I don't buy that? The SEAL's I have known, would rip your head off and shove your raft up your ass.

    Hey, I could be wrong.






    Not......

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    I see; just a different kind of discrimination
    Blacks served in the US military since the Civil War, in combat units.

    Sorry, no dice.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    What changed in the military during the late 40's to warrant overturning discrimination on the basis of race? Did white soldiers become more enlightened? Did someone discover that blacks were actually capable of doing jobs other than personal aids and truck drivers?
    They were in "segregated units." and served in the US military since the civil war.

    See Examples...

    54th Massachusetts Infantry
    92nd Division
    Tuskeegee Airmen

    Man you really need to study your history.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    I always find it comical to watch how people rationalize their own bigotries and justify discrimination on that basis.
    I find it comical that people who have no idea were we have been as a country, want to guide us blindly into the future without a clue. How can you tell us where to go when you have no idea where we have been?

    My view has nothing to do with discrimination or bigotry. It has to do with understanding that males and females are (unlike racial differences) built completely different. Females are not built for the rigors or stresses of combat, men are. Simple FACT.
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