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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Females serving on a sub would not work. Same goes for infantry, armor and artillery. You have to be able to preform every job as a member of the team. Very few women would be able to fill this requirement. Not to mention the "relaxed" physical requirements for female troops.

    Not realistic at all.
    What IF a female was physically qualified and passed strength tests that men passed?

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

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    It's never a good idea to make absolute statements.

    Interestingly enough, from the same Wiki:
    Rangers are Army, not Navy. His statement is absolutely correct.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think there is some kind of law in pretty much every branch of the military that says that women can not be in units which would be first in. Something akin to that.
    There is no law it is policy and it is restricted by role/function nothing about "first in". Furthermore when we are dealing with terrorists and "insurgents" and guerilla warfare the concept of "first in" has no meaning. You can be the last, first, middle truck or humvee in line and the IED meets you.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Yes, I can say with absolute 100% certainty that women are not, nor have ever been allowed to go to Ranger School or be assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment.

    Where apdst? He can validate.
    I take your word for it. Thanks.

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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What IF a female was physically qualified and passed strength tests that men passed?
    Still would not go because the percentage of females that could pass would still be prone to higher chances of injury's in training alone.

    Femakes are not built for combat, they are built for having children.

    Nothing sexist in that last comment, just a physical fact.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What IF a female was physically qualified and passed strength tests that men passed?
    I don't think it is about that. It is about the extra accommodations which would have to be made for them on what is already a cramped space like a submarine. It is not like a ship where you can simply get somebody to find a space to put women in. Submarine design is entirely about ergonomics at the end of the day. And I think a submarine really isn't a place where we should be messing with such things. I can't believe I agree with Navy. This just isn't a good idea.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Rangers are Army, not Navy. His statement is absolutely correct.
    Wasn't attempting to prove him wrong.

    In fact, the opposite, if you read back a few posts.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Wasn't attempting to prove him wrong.

    In fact, the opposite, if you read back a few posts.
    OK thanks!
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't think it is about that. It is about the extra accommodations which would have to be made for them on what is already a cramped space like a submarine. It is not like a ship where you can simply get somebody to find a space to put women in. Submarine design is entirely about ergonomics at the end of the day. And I think a submarine really isn't a place where we should be messing with such things. I can't believe I agree with Navy. This just isn't a good idea.
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    Re: Navy will soon let women serve on subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Females serving on a sub would not work. Same goes for infantry, armor and artillery. You have to be able to preform every job as a member of the team. Very few women would be able to fill this requirement. Not to mention the "relaxed" physical requirements for female troops.

    Not realistic at all.
    No one said anything about relaxing the requirements. If fewer women or no women can pass the tests, fine, don't have them board, but it should be open to those who can pass.
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