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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

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    Morons? Just because you have to call 911?

    It is not like most people are looking to need to call 911. Things happen. What about someone having chest pains who needs to call? I doubt that person wanted to have a heart attack.

    I do not even feel this should be legal and guess what? When someone cannot afford to call 911 and they die? Their family has ever right to sue.
    No body wants to get sick either and go to the hospital for medical care, but look at the number of people who dont want to pay for others medical care. I would expect that they would object to having to pay for others use of emergency services as well

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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    No body wants to get sick either and go to the hospital for medical care, but look at the number of people who dont want to pay for others medical care. I would expect that they would object to having to pay for others use of emergency services as well
    Most likely they would object.

    I wonder what these types do if they ever need the police? I wonder what they do if their houses go up in flames?

    My guess would be they call the cops and/or the fire department when they have the need for emergency services. What do you think?

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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    I can see the future now:

    911, what is your emergency?

    My house is on fire, and my child has been badly burned!

    OK, then. What is your emergency fire response insurance number, and the group number and member number of your health insurance?
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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Obviously the charge is not done via the phone company but is charged for the person requesting or needing the emergency services. No they would not hold up on care until a valid charge card was taken - the charge would be taken after the fact. However, I see no problem with charging a few hundred bucks to bolster a specific service by the people that use it most. Realize that most of us only use 911 for real emergency's which is how it's supposed to be used - but others misuse it to take their kids to the emergency room for the sniffles for example. The charge would make sure that the person receiving is calling for a real emergency.

    I could agree that a charge would be made for frivilous uses of 911 but then who defines what is and is not frivilous and how is it applied on a case by case basis every day/night and how can it be applied equally? I think that would be harded than a simple flat $300 charge.

    I've used 911 once in my life, to take my father to the hospital in 1985. In that case, the ambulance service charged $150 dollars for the care/ride to the hospital from my house which is approximately 7 miles away. I think this is a good way to start making people accountable for their actions and making sure they call 911 for a real emergency. The alternative is to simply raise everyone's taxes by $300 per person; given that choice I say charge those who use it and leave those of us who didn't use it alone.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Obviously the charge is not done via the phone company but is charged for the person requesting or needing the emergency services. No they would not hold up on care until a valid charge card was taken - the charge would be taken after the fact. However, I see no problem with charging a few hundred bucks to bolster a specific service by the people that use it most. Realize that most of us only use 911 for real emergency's which is how it's supposed to be used - but others misuse it to take their kids to the emergency room for the sniffles for example. The charge would make sure that the person receiving is calling for a real emergency.

    I could agree that a charge would be made for frivilous uses of 911 but then who defines what is and is not frivilous and how is it applied on a case by case basis every day/night and how can it be applied equally? I think that would be harded than a simple flat $300 charge.

    I've used 911 once in my life, to take my father to the hospital in 1985. In that case, the ambulance service charged $150 dollars for the care/ride to the hospital from my house which is approximately 7 miles away. I think this is a good way to start making people accountable for their actions and making sure they call 911 for a real emergency. The alternative is to simply raise everyone's taxes by $300 per person; given that choice I say charge those who use it and leave those of us who didn't use it alone.
    Lets say you saw your neighbor on the sidewalk in dire need of an ambulance, he/she cant call 911 should you be charged for it? You didnt need it, but a neighbour.

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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Lets say you saw your neighbor on the sidewalk in dire need of an ambulance, he/she cant call 911 should you be charged for it? You didnt need it, but a neighbour.
    I saw a program yesterday with a member of the Tracey board being interviewed. The person calling isn't charged for it, the person getting the service would be charged.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I saw a program yesterday with a member of the Tracey board being interviewed. The person calling isn't charged for it, the person getting the service would be charged.
    When I was 17 I got a bag I was carrying caught in the front spoke of my bike on the way home from school. I went down quickly, was briefly knocked out, more from the suddeness of it all, and was badly scraped up.

    Someone called the ambulance (before the days of 911), I told them I was fine, but they said they were required by law to take me since I was a minor. I had an ambulance ride which was cool. My Dad got stuck with a very expensive bill for it not covered by his his insurance, and was PO'd at me (He was and still is a major A-hole). It was very pricey as I recall.

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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    When I was 17 I got a bag I was carrying caught in the front spoke of my bike on the way home from school. I went down quickly, was briefly knocked out, more from the suddeness of it all, and was badly scraped up.

    Someone called the ambulance (before the days of 911), I told them I was fine, but they said they were required by law to take me since I was a minor. I had an ambulance ride which was cool. My Dad got stuck with a very expensive bill for it not covered by his his insurance, and was PO'd at me (He was and still is a major A-hole). It was very pricey as I recall.
    Yep that sounds about right. We didn't have insurance so my father probably would have been pissed beyond belief as he'd have to pay for the emergency room visit as well. I like our 911 system don't get me wrong, but I think the people who use it should have to pay more for it than those that don't.

    I'm just wondering - I lived Monroeville for a semester during College and there was a place across the street - swear, cops would be there at least once or twice a week. There'd be a fight, argument, one time someone threw a bottle through their front window, then there was a few times when the wife would be screaming at the house from the middle of the street. Just ugly stuff. I'm wondering how this would work for them - would they be charged $300 each time the cops came out because the neighbors called 911 on them? I remember at least twice the ambulance came with the cops.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep that sounds about right. We didn't have insurance so my father probably would have been pissed beyond belief as he'd have to pay for the emergency room visit as well. I like our 911 system don't get me wrong, but I think the people who use it should have to pay more for it than those that don't.

    I'm just wondering - I lived Monroeville for a semester during College and there was a place across the street - swear, cops would be there at least once or twice a week. There'd be a fight, argument, one time someone threw a bottle through their front window, then there was a few times when the wife would be screaming at the house from the middle of the street. Just ugly stuff. I'm wondering how this would work for them - would they be charged $300 each time the cops came out because the neighbors called 911 on them? I remember at least twice the ambulance came with the cops.
    You do have abusers of the system. Anxious little old ladies still living on their own who call every time they feel short of breath. 600 lb non-compliant diabetics with congestive heart failure who are frequent fliers due to fluid overload, chest pain, whatever, they are big financial drains on our system.

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