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    High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    New Plan Will Let High Schoolers Graduate Early - NYTimes.com

    Dozens of public high schools in eight states will introduce a program next year allowing 10th graders who pass a battery of tests to get a diploma two years early and immediately enroll in community college.
    If it were up to me. I would expand this to allow students to enroll in college if they can pass the graduation exams. The point of education is to learn stuff, not sit in a classroom for a certain period of time and, honestly, if I had the possibility of graduating early in highschool, I would have taken it a lot more seriously.

    Overall though, I see this as a good thing. The goal of primary school should be to prepare students for a job or college and how to be good citizens. But some students are better (or worse) than others and any program that helps let the student work at his or her own pace will enhance education through the simple function of relieving boredom. One of the biggest mistakes we make in educating our children (at least in this area) is that we group the smart kids with the not so smart kids, causing us to educate our kids at the pace of the slowest student. Any program that helps track students and helps us to get away from our current setups will let those who are able and willing excel so that they can go on to be better contributors to our society.

    The project’s backers hope it will eventually spread to all schools in those states, and inspire other states to follow suit. Supporters include the National Association of Manufacturers and the National Education Association, the nation’s largest teachers’ union.
    Teacher's unions are often accused to slowing or stopping educational progress, but it looks like they are on board.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    My high school allowed graduation early if the req. were met. I don't have a problem with it, although I do think there is some merit in Kids being 18 before they go to college.

    I was immature enough at 18 while in college, let alone 16.

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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Washington state has had a similar program for several years, it's called 'head start'.....
    It helps the smart kids by separating them from the dummies....
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    It's a great idea. I don't think many colleges would (or should) be eager to take 16 year olds, but anything that gives students the opportunity to move into their preferred trade sooner is fine by me.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Washington state has had a similar program for several years, it's called 'head start'.....
    It helps the smart kids by separating them from the dummies....
    Then that doesn't sound anything like this program. Reread the article.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    School systems might objective if their budgets are cut.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    School systems might objective if their budgets are cut.
    Random comment is random.

    My daughter is 16 and already taking college classes at her high school. There would be zero advantage to me for her to test out of high school and start attending college at this point in time. First, I don't believe she is mature enough (yet) to be living on a university campus. Second, she's attending college RIGHT NOW, in essence, on her high school campus, and it is costing us ZERO DOLLARS. This will allow us to save thousands when she does start attending college full-time.

    I have no problems with allowing students to test out of school, but I don't see how the U.S. is well-served by having a less educated workforce. Nor, in my experience, are most 16-year-olds mature enough to be out in the workforce full-time. For most of those who will opt out, it may well mean lower earnings over their lifetime.

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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    New Plan Will Let High Schoolers Graduate Early - NYTimes.com



    If it were up to me. I would expand this to allow students to enroll in college if they can pass the graduation exams. The point of education is to learn stuff, not sit in a classroom for a certain period of time and, honestly, if I had the possibility of graduating early in highschool, I would have taken it a lot more seriously.

    Overall though, I see this as a good thing. The goal of primary school should be to prepare students for a job or college and how to be good citizens. But some students are better (or worse) than others and any program that helps let the student work at his or her own pace will enhance education through the simple function of relieving boredom. One of the biggest mistakes we make in educating our children (at least in this area) is that we group the smart kids with the not so smart kids, causing us to educate our kids at the pace of the slowest student. Any program that helps track students and helps us to get away from our current setups will let those who are able and willing excel so that they can go on to be better contributors to our society.



    Teacher's unions are often accused to slowing or stopping educational progress, but it looks like they are on board.
    Geesh, why couldn't they have done this 10 years ago.

    I would of taken advantage of this.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's a great idea. I don't think many colleges would (or should) be eager to take 16 year olds, but anything that gives students the opportunity to move into their preferred trade sooner is fine by me.
    Most colleges take kids starting at 15 or 16 if I'm not mistaken.
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    Re: High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Random comment is random.

    My daughter is 16 and already taking college classes at her high school. There would be zero advantage to me for her to test out of high school and start attending college at this point in time. First, I don't believe she is mature enough (yet) to be living on a university campus. Second, she's attending college RIGHT NOW, in essence, on her high school campus, and it is costing us ZERO DOLLARS. This will allow us to save thousands when she does start attending college full-time.

    I have no problems with allowing students to test out of school, but I don't see how the U.S. is well-served by having a less educated workforce. Nor, in my experience, are most 16-year-olds mature enough to be out in the workforce full-time. For most of those who will opt out, it may well mean lower earnings over their lifetime.
    It doesn't mean we'll have a less-educated workforce, as the typical person this is targeted at is not going to have any less education. This is not designed for overachievers who are trying to get a leg up on their admission to Yale, it's designed for kids who know that they want to pursue a trade or similar career and don't feel it's a good use of their time to spend two more years learning irrelevant **** when they could be learning more useful and hands-on things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most colleges take kids starting at 15 or 16 if I'm not mistaken.
    Most colleges will take a few individual students who have completed all of their high school classes by 15 or 16 and who are at the top of their class. I doubt they'll be as eager to take a huge number of kids who have only completed two years of high school and who are not necessarily at the top of their class. I'm sure that they'll take some, but not all.
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