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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why aren't they being criminally charged?

    It's against the law to trespass in someones home.
    Also possible child porn crimes.
    Thats a great angle if they were recording any of this and it sounds like they were.

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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    The school is guilty until a court full of damn good lawyers, a corrupt judge, or a nespotically appointed jury finds them innocent right?

    I do not see any reasoning for a school to put a webcam into someone's home. If it is sexual voyeurism, which I doubt, then the school needs to be burned into ashes (metaphorically of course).
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    All of them. Regardless of whose fault it ACTUALLY is.
    The principal could have notified the parents that people spying on you is a condition of accepting the laptops.
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Right on and they should have their butts in civil court where a law suit could put the district out of business.

    If the people of this town don't go after these freaking weirdos something is radically wrong.

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    Welcome to the Brave New World of Obamania. If you know anything about history you will know that Germany had Block Wardens, and Obama has ask for people to spy on the people next door.

    When you add up all of the intrusions into your life it gets hard to just allow these WACKO RADICALS to stay in office and out of jail for usurping the Constitution.

    They all took an Oath they have all violated starting with Obama down to this School Board.
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The principal could have notified the parents that people spying on you is a condition of accepting the laptops.
    Though that leaves me wondering, would that really matter? I doubt that a clause in a contract from a government funded entity that essentially gives up your privacy could be valid either way, but I am not a lawyer.
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Though that leaves me wondering, would that really matter?
    I was just pointing out to Hoplite that the principal is to blame. Nother whether or not it should be legal for schools to spy on students and parents.

    I doubt that a clause in a contract from a government funded entity that essentially gives up your privacy could be valid either way, but I am not a lawyer.
    That should be changed to "tax payer funded entity".Your tax money does not belong to the government.So it is not the government's money but the tax payer's money.
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Don't mean to burst any bubbles, but it sounds like this never actually happened.

    The Pennsylvania School Spycam Story Grows More Complicated - Above the Law - A Legal Tabloid - News, Gossip, and Colorful Commentary on Law Firms and the Legal Profession

    Executive summary:

    The school provided students with laptops. The laptops (like almost all laptops nowadays) contain software that allows owners to turn on location tracking and the web camera if the laptops are reported stolen.

    One student was called into his principal's office and confronted about some inappropriate behavior off of school grounds. One of the things the school showed him as evidence was a picture from his computer's webcam showing him smoking weed.

    The student's parent's flipped out and filed suit, claiming that their son's privacy had been violated and that the school had obtained the picture by turning on the camera remotely and spying on him. In actuality, here's how the school almost certainly got the photo:



    Combine this with the school's categoric denial that they ever activated the tracking feature remotely, and this sounds like it's much ado about nothing.
    Looking at both articles about this case, I don't think your assertions here are valid. First, according to the OP link, the district has admitted to using the remote camera function "42 times in 14 months." Their denial looks like this:
    "We believe that the administrator at Harriton has been unfairly portrayed and unjustly attacked in connection with her attempts to be supportive of a student and his family," the statement on the Lower Merion School District site said. "The district never did and never would use such tactics as a basis for disciplinary action."
    In other words, they have not used the remote camera function to deliberately spy on anyone, but they may have used what they found from their 42 times to confront a student about drug use.

    The idea that the school "most certainly" found the alleged drug use on the boy's website indicates that the school goes trolling through student FB pages, which sounds like a poor use of administrators' time. I'm not sure the off-campus behavior of a student is that much the business of the school, either. In any case, if there was no disciplinary action contemplated, and the school administrators were just warning this boy and his parents that he was smoking pot on his FB page, it doesn't make sense for them to sue and turn the incident into a class action suit, does it?

    Finally, the fact that the school district has discontinued the policy says something about the advisability of the policy, no?

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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Surely, it is the stated task of the education system to properly prepare students for the world in which they are about to enter? Seems this school is on task.;-)
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    No, we didn't activate the remote tracking feature.

    Oh god I hope he doesn't ask about the webcam.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    Re: Suit: Pa. school used webcams to spy on students

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why aren't they being criminally charged?

    It's against the law to trespass in someones home.
    Also possible child porn crimes.
    Oh they will be trust me. PA doesn't joke around with invasion of privacy. The laws are stricter here than much of the country.
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