As for the public option, this is the ONLY poll I've seen which has shown plurality opposition to it. And even here, the numbers aren't horrible. 40-48% opposition on a single poll of a single issue is not exactly the kind of thing that will send a party into the political wilderness for decades, as you put it.
If 80% of Americans don't USE their health insurance on a regular basis, why would they NOT be satisfied with it? The whole point of insurance is that most people don't use it and people share the risk.Originally Posted by Dav
Then it's not an issue that's going to send the Democrats into the political wilderness. If the American people were so overwhelmingly and vigorously opposed to this, surely it would've been on the forefront of their minds when the Democrats were campaigning on it.Originally Posted by Dav
While I'm not a big fan of our constitutional amendment process, it *is* a part of the Constitution. The filibuster is not.Originally Posted by Dav
So every government should abandon ship on every policy the minute it drops below the 50% threshold in the polls? This is not a direct democracy, nor should it be, lest the entire country end up like California.Originally Posted by Dav
If the people don't like the policies of the government, they should have voted for someone else, and they'll be able to correct that mistake next time.
So if you're implying that there is no political gain, then you're also implying that they did it for policy reasons and that all of the people who SPONSORED the bill had a sudden change of heart all at the same time. Right?Originally Posted by Dav
The people get a chance to voice their opinion once every two years, which is plenty. In between, I don't give a damn what they want, except inasmuch as it relates to what Congress wants.Originally Posted by Dav
I have yet to see any evidence that the people oppose the main provisions in the reform bill (other than the individual mandate): Ending preexisting conditions, helping people buy insurance, an independent Medicare commission, making insurance portable, etc.Originally Posted by Dav
All I've seen so far is ONE poll that indicates they're slightly opposed to the public option (and many other polls to the contrary), and some polls that indicate they're opposed to "the bill" as a whole...even though most people have no clue what's in it.
I hardly think 40-48% opposition to a public option, which is not in the bill, is going to cause such devastating losses...especially when there was overwhelming SUPPORT for it just last summer.Originally Posted by Dav
As I mentioned before, Snowe opposed the bill despite getting everything she wanted, which indicates to me that either A) she was negotiating in bad faith from the outset, or B) the Republican leadership leaned heavily on her to oppose it. I think (B) is more likely, and the same is probably true for Sue Collins.Originally Posted by Dav
(They wouldn't have HAD to have been bought off if the majority had its way, but I digress.)Originally Posted by Dav
As for the 39 House Democrats who opposed it, you are forgetting that it STILL passed, because the Democrats had an even bigger majority, because the people voted them into power. You seem to be suggesting that even an OVERWHELMING majority should still capitulate to the wishes of the minority.