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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I don't fool myself, neither should you.
    No evidence would emerge,

    They wouldn't, however, find a thing.

    The hit squad has most likely left nothing that could point towards them.

    Agents in such cases are only caught during the operation.

    Since the agents in this case have successfully escaped before the Dubai police could realize what has happened, and since they have probably used a totally different appearance from their original and actual image, the chances to catch them are pretty much non-existent.

    They absolutely knew of Dubai's camera systems, they knew they will be recorded on CCTV, and they have prepared accordingly wearing glasses, wigs, makeup and probably face masks.

    Here's one of the agents, Gail Folliard, giving a big greening smile to the camera.
    Of course, a very blurry picture, and you can see that she's wearing a wig:
    Funny, you seem very knowledgeable of the organisation and tactics of an assassination squad that you deny is connected to Mossad.

    All your analysis above might well apply to a Mossad mission. If it were, for example, the work of Hamas' Palestinian rival Fatah, I suspect you wouldn't be making all the above claims.

    Who do you think did it? As I said, I suspect Mossad. If there's no evidence of that, who do you suspect?
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Funny, you seem very knowledgeable of the organisation and tactics of an assassination squad that you deny is connected to Mossad.
    Why, because if they turn out to be connected to the Mossad(or more likely Mossad itslef), it would make more sense to you that I have knowledge on it?

    My so-called 'knowledge' is based purely on previous acts in the modern history of such hits.
    All your analysis above might well apply to a Mossad mission. If it were, for example, the work of Hamas' Palestinian rival Fatah, I suspect you wouldn't be making all the above claims.
    Your suspicion is, just like the one that Mossad was behind it, baseless.
    I would say the same.
    Who do you think did it? As I said, I suspect Mossad. If there's no evidence of that, who do you suspect?
    I suspect no one.
    The Dubai police hasn't even presented evidence that the terrorist was murdered, the pathologist that was the first to examine Mahmoud's body said it was a stroke.
    He was found on his bed in his hotel room, and there were no signs or marks of violence, and there were pills all over his room.

    And if you want another conspiracy theory, it could just as well be that the Saudis have found him dead and have tried to frame the Israeli Mossad agency for the hit, as some form of further incitement against the Israeli state.
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

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    I'd like to believe Mossad did it.
    Good for Israel and the world.One less terrorist to deal with..
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Why, because if they turn out to be connected to the Mossad(or more likely Mossad itslef), it would make more sense to you that I have knowledge on it?

    My so-called 'knowledge' is based purely on previous acts in the modern history of such hits.
    Your suspicion is, just like the one that Mossad was behind it, baseless.
    I would say the same.
    I suspect no one.
    The Dubai police hasn't even presented evidence that the terrorist was murdered, the pathologist that was the first to examine Mahmoud's body said it was a stroke.
    He was found on his bed in his hotel room, and there were no signs or marks of violence, and there were pills all over his room.

    And if you want another conspiracy theory, it could just as well be that the Saudis have found him dead and have tried to frame the Israeli Mossad agency for the hit, as some form of further incitement against the Israeli state.
    What weasel words you weave, ApocalypseWhen. On the one hand you are desperate to laud the daring and expert action of your glorious compatriots. On the other you want to revel in their matchless invisibility. You're torn between praising them and proclaiming their innocence.

    Make up your mind. Either they're brilliant for eliminating an enemy of Israel or they're being falsely accused of international terrorism. Which is it?
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    I don't understand what the point is.. I mean, beyond the "one less terrorist in the world" angle... how does this impact Hamas? I will fully admit I know little beyond the surface here, but was this person irreplaceable? Will his death prove a major setback for Hamas of some kind? I guess I don't understand what whoever-did-this expected to achieve, unless this is a more personal than political thing. I can understand revenge, justice, or a personal or business vendetta; but as a political move, was this supposed to deter Hamas in some way? Because I think it would only entrench them further...
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What weasel words you weave, ApocalypseWhen. On the one hand you are desperate to laud the daring and expert action of your glorious compatriots. On the other you want to revel in their matchless invisibility. You're torn between praising them and proclaiming their innocence.

    Make up your mind. Either they're brilliant for eliminating an enemy of Israel or they're being falsely accused of international terrorism. Which is it?
    Why should I be torn between two sides of two different coins?

    They have done a great job, whoever they are, and I said that many times already.
    They have taken down a major terrorist ****head who's now lying in the place where he belongs, underneath the earth.

    That does not mean that the Mossad is behind the action, and I cannot hope to understand what kind of damaged logic are you using to tie between one statement and the other.

    Anyway, there's no international terrorism here, the 'victim' is a terrorist and not an innocent civilian, this action will only be called 'terrorism' by the terrorist supporters whose opinion doesn't matter.
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by filfilksq View Post
    I don't understand what the point is.. I mean, beyond the "one less terrorist in the world" angle... how does this impact Hamas? I will fully admit I know little beyond the surface here, but was this person irreplaceable? Will his death prove a major setback for Hamas of some kind? I guess I don't understand what whoever-did-this expected to achieve, unless this is a more personal than political thing. I can understand revenge, justice, or a personal or business vendetta; but as a political move, was this supposed to deter Hamas in some way? Because I think it would only entrench them further...
    Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, the terrorist chief killed in the assassination, was apparently responsible for the supplement of Hamas with rockets from Iran.
    He was the man behind the ship caught a few months earlier, an Iranian ship filled with tons of weapons meant for the Hamas organization in Gaza.

    Whoever took him out has most probably had knowledge of his actions, and has seen his death important enough to be worth the CCTV capture.
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Whoever took him out has most probably had knowledge of his actions, and has seen his death important enough to be worth the CCTV capture.
    I guess I don't see how this will impact anything long-term -- won't someone else just step in to fulfill that role? (Assuming that is the impetus behind the attack.)
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    Quote Originally Posted by filfilksq View Post
    I guess I don't see how this will impact anything long-term -- won't someone else just step in to fulfill that role? (Assuming that is the impetus behind the attack.)
    One could most probably fill the role but he would be lacking the Iranian connections that Mabhouh has created for himself.

    We do not really know most of the details, we just know that whoever commits an assassination of a terrorist chief in a place such as Dubai - a place that is netted with countless of cameras - probably finds the terrorist's death worthy of the risk.
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    Re: Israel Under Suspicion It Killed Hamas Man

    We do not really know most of the details, we just know that whoever commits an assassination of a terrorist chief in a place such as Dubai - a place that is netted with countless of cameras - probably finds the terrorist's death worthy of the risk.
    It's not the first time it's happened here, although the most recent instance I can think of off-hand wasn't terrorism related, the killing of Lebanese singer [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanne_Tamim"]Suzanne Tamim[/ame].

    One wonders if the full truth will ever be known.
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