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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Welcome to the “prof is background noise club”.
    a.k.a., the group that's never won a debate against Prof club. LOL

    He schools you guys so badly, it's fun to watch.

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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Do you have it in you to make sound economic commentary or analysis? Or are you hear to rant and make silly posts? We need to see some substance Prof.
    Leave the poor guy alone. Who knows what he might do if we provoke him too much.

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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Do you have it in you to make sound economic commentary or analysis? Or are you hear to rant and make silly posts? We need to see some substance Prof.
    thus spoke the personality whore

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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    a.k.a., the group that's never won a debate against Prof club. LOL

    He schools you guys so badly, it's fun to watch.
    So, you don't think maybe your personal political slant leads you to that conclusion?
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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    a.k.a., the group that's never won a debate against Prof club. LOL

    He schools you guys so badly, it's fun to watch.
    Comon Erod, you and i know that the prof is a defective RNC BOT that was stuck on DP before the Nov elections, and never recalled.I believe the unit number is/was... LOL 1.01.
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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    No, that is a egaltarian pipe dream. I think you must look at the costs vs benefits and realize that the pragmatic decision to make was to increase subsidies to places that will generally need help during times of economic hardship.When you make this descision you must realize, everyone that helped pay for this will not recieve a benefit.

    When the decision was made for the stimulus the cost of not spending money now was high. People were becoming unemployed, states were going to have large budget gaps, businesses were going to lose money... you know all this. But the time value for money was realtively small, interest rates and yields on government bonds were practically zero and the economy was in debt deflation. The pragmatic decision was to spend the money now and pay it back later and try to spend it in a way that positively impacts those who need it most.
    And my point is that everyone thinks their own pet cause is the most deserving and efficient way to hand out money, so simply saying "it saved my small town" doesn't really do much. I'm sure that there are tens of thousands of small towns across the country that could use a revenue infusion of that magnitude, but we can't fund all of them.

    Look at it this way: The accepted wisdom is that in order to get the biggest bang for your stimulus buck, you put it in the hands of those who would spend it immediately, which is why a large portion of the stimulus money was directed at things like food stamps and unemployment. However, the impact of the money is not the only concern - if it was, we could have done a much better job by eliminating all the inefficient things like tax cuts and hiring incentives and replacing them with a $400b grant to Lenny Dykstra. That doesn't mean that such a plan would have been "fair" or objectively beneficial.
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    Re: Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Comon Erod, you and i know that the prof is a defective RNC BOT that was stuck on DP before the Nov elections, and never recalled.I believe the unit number is/was... LOL 1.01.
    this, from the guy who doesn't know the difference between a BILL and a LAW

    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Again, it’s not a bill until the President signs it; until then it’s a proposed bill, often to referred by the HC number.

    When it is signed it will be called “OBAMAS HEALTHCARE BILL” or there also the possibility it will be called the “KENNEDY HEALTCARE BILL”. Until then it is not a BILL it’s a proposed bill or a HC number.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/newrep...y&p=1058252213

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