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Brick by brick, American business loses edge Army chooses German firm

jamesrage

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I believe that the government should not in any shape or form encourage outsourcing nor should they ever outsource.Tax payer funded projects should use American made products only. I am sure some globalist scum will say but the government should get the cheapest deal. **** that, the government does not give a rats ass about saving money because if they did then we wouldn't be giving out foreign aid,bailing out companies trying to get socialized medicine,handing out grants to study gays in bars in south America and and many other stupid ass things.If the government didn't waste tax payer money on other ****, the globalist scum might have a point. So the government can use only American made goods for tax payer funded projects.


Brick by brick, American business loses edge - Washington Times

The $250,000 subcontract for an elementary-middle school project at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, N.C., has since caught the attention of lawmakers from Ohio, who are concerned that the Army has no say over hundreds of millions of dollars in military subcontracts. The Defense Department's office of inspector general already has opened an administrative investigation into the selection process.

Two Democratic congressmen from Ohio, Rep. Charlie Wilson, whose district includes Summitville, and Rep. John Boccieri, along with Reps. Jim Jordan and Bob Latta, Ohio Republicans, wrote to Secretary of the Army John McHugh in late November and asked for an explanation of "the Army's decision to overlook a domestic manufacturer and the failure to support the American economy."

A month later, an Army official responded that the Army "does not have privity of contract with subcontractors or a subcontractor contract award." The official added that the German company was exempt from the Buy American Act, which protects U.S. manufacturers from foreign competitors because of a World Trade Organization pact to stimulate foreign trade.

After a closed-door Capitol Hill meeting in January with high-ranking Army officials, Mr. Wilson appeared unassuaged. "I still strongly believe that the Army should be better about ensuring that American companies are given a fair shake," the congressman said in a statement. "This experience with Summitville Tiles has reinforced my strong belief that American companies should be supported at all levels of federal contracting.

"I look forward to working with my colleagues to ensure that we have better oversight of such contracts in the future," he pledged.
 
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So what if the foreign firm makes a better quality product that would make soldiers on the battlefield safer? Should they still buy the American product?
 
So what if the foreign firm makes a better quality product that would make soldiers on the battlefield safer? Should they still buy the American product?

In that case, the military should leak the specs of the equipment to an American company so we can copy it.
 
In that case, the military should leak the specs of the equipment to an American company so we can copy it.
So we should just steal it? Nice ... :roll:
 
So we should just steal it? Nice ... :roll:

Of course. It's for the good of our soldiers...right?

I was only joking, sorta. I believe that it depends on the piece of equipment. Battlefield equipment? Weapons? Vehicles? MOPP gear? Sure, buy the best made and most effective equipment on the market, regardless of who makes it.

But, a schoolhouse? Yeah, I think that needs to be given to an American company, period.
 
Lets not forget that the Federal Government is on a damn good streak of screwing North Carolina industry over. They were going to get the materials to build the 9/11 memorial from NC, but they decided to go with a foreign competitor.

I guess your ride the horse until it becomes injured, then you shot the mother ****er.
 
Just like the Chinese & Russians do.....;)
And that would give us no standing to complain about it if we were to do the same, would it?
 
Come to think of it, we did steal the design for the M-60 machine gun.
We stole it from the Nazis, so no real harm there.
 
This happens all the time. The US has done the same many times.. Jet engine anyone?
 
We stole it from the Nazis, so no real harm there.

Well, no, we actually stole it from the Wermacht, not the Nazis. Two different orgs. And, not only did we borrow the design from the Wermacht, the Wermacht is still using the Machinegewehr as part of their TO&E.
 
We stole it from the Nazis, so no real harm there.

To be fair, Germany beat everyone to the punch on all the neat war gadgets back then. Timing belt that light early fighters shoot through their own propeller, some nifty firearms, jet engines...

We even stole their scientists to build us a nuke!

Good inventors, those Germans. We should steal their school building crew, bring them over here and pay them to work for us. Oh wait.
 
To be fair, Germany beat everyone to the punch on all the neat war gadgets back then. Timing belt that light early fighters shoot through their own propeller, some nifty firearms, jet engines...

We even stole their scientists to build us a nuke!

Good inventors, those Germans. We should steal their school building crew, bring them over here and pay them to work for us. Oh wait.

Actually, we stole their scientists to build rockets.

To be fair, Germany beat everyone to the punch on all the neat war gadgets back then. Timing belt that light early fighters shoot through their own propeller, some nifty firearms, jet engines...

It was a Frenchman that came out with the first patent and it wasn't a timing belt, it was an interupter gear that caused the gun to stop firing when the prop passed in front of the muzzle.
 
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Well, then I am a globalist scum who holds that our nations decision makers must change the attitude about things.
Strange, that to see the obvious make me scum....is this the way people think???

As other have posted, our military should have the best.
The Germans proved that they can make the "best" during the second world war, we and the Russians beat them via sheer numbers, plus our political system was better..,which allowed for better troops who could think for themselves...
Whatever happened??
 
Good to see so many capitalists support protectionism.
 
Good to see so many capitalists support protectionism.

Giving government contracts to American companies is just common sense, not protectionism.
 
Giving government contracts to American companies is just common sense, not protectionism.

Ah so I get it. Protecting our home industries from the market is common sense. How socialist of you.
 
In that case, the military should leak the specs of the equipment to an American company so we can copy it.

The Chinese copy.
We should innovate, our attitudes must improve, as must our education and health care.
Here, We may as well copy the Germans, or at least learn from them.
 
Giving government contracts to American companies is just common sense, not protectionism.

That's a weak argument buddy.

Hardcore Capitalists have the issue of manning up to the fact that when it comes to the International market capitalism does not look so pretty after all.
 
That's a weak argument buddy.

Hardcore Capitalists have the issue of manning up to the fact that when it comes to the International market capitalism does not look so pretty after all.

The problem is that to be a hardcore capitalist you actually have to understand what capitalism is.
 
That's a weak argument buddy.

Hardcore Capitalists have the issue of manning up to the fact that when it comes to the International market capitalism does not look so pretty after all.

It's not protectionism. It's more of that common sense I mentioned in another thread. Spend tax payer dollars at home, not abroad. it in no way violates the capitalist market.
 
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