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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Segregation was constitutional until Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka ruled it unconstitutional. Similarly, social safetynets are constitutional due to prior rulings. If you think they should be unconstitutional, then you are welcome to try to challenge them in the federal courts. You won't succeed, but try just the same if you want.
    I do think they're unconstitutional however I'm not a lawyer and you still cannot provide any Constitutionality for your view point.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

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    Ok then, can you understand how someone could voluntarily choose to join the armed forces without supporting the draft?
    You are all over the map.......

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    You are all over the map.......
    Yup. I'm a bona fide World Traveler.

    Did you find some issue with this analogy as well? How is choosing to join the military different from being forced to join the military if the end result is the same?

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Personally, I think everyone should do 2 years in the military or some sort of charity work, but that's beside the point.

    But yes I can see the difference. My overall suspicion when people go "I should give to charity, not pay taxes" is that they are using it as a cover to evade responsibility. Yes, I know about the statistics that conservatives give more to nonprofits, but I think that's just a difference in approach by the two groups.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Personally, I think everyone should do 2 years in the military or some sort of charity work, but that's beside the point.

    But yes I can see the difference. My overall suspicion when people go "I should give to charity, not pay taxes" is that they are using it as a cover to evade responsibility. Yes, I know about the statistics that conservatives give more to nonprofits, but I think that's just a difference in approach by the two groups.
    I agree that it's just a difference in approach by the two groups. One group feels they have the right to give generously with their own money, and the other feels that they have the right to give generously with other people's money.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Some of the posts in this thread just show ignorant some of you are. Now I am not saying that everyone is poor because of circumstances out of their control but certainly you people know that some people are poor because of circumstances out of their control. Do you think everyone chooses to be poor just like how you think people choose to be gay. Yes, a lot of people are poor because they are lazy, they made bad choices, etc. However, there is a good amount of people who are poor where it's out of their circumstances. For example, I have a friend who is currently poor and has been since childhood. He wasn't able to get a good education because his parents had him skip school to work since they couldn't and their bills needed to be paid. To this day, he is still working, getting little pay, and is responsible for paying his parents skyrocketing medical bills. His debt just keeps increasing but is it his fault? I believe it's his parents fault.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I agree that it's just a difference in approach by the two groups. One group feels they have the right to give generously with their own money, and the other feels that they have the right to give generously with other people's money.
    That is one way to phrase it and from one perspective that probably seems true. The liberal perspective is that society has a responsibility to itself.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Some of the posts in this thread just show ignorant some of you are. Now I am not saying that everyone is poor because of circumstances out of their control but certainly you people know that some people are poor because of circumstances out of their control. Do you think everyone chooses to be poor just like how you think people choose to be gay. Yes, a lot of people are poor because they are lazy, they made bad choices, etc. However, there is a good amount of people who are poor where it's out of their circumstances. For example, I have a friend who is currently poor and has been since childhood. He wasn't able to get a good education because his parents had him skip school to work since they couldn't and their bills needed to be paid. To this day, he is still working, getting little pay, and is responsible for paying his parents skyrocketing medical bills. His debt just keeps increasing but is it his fault? I believe it's his parents fault.
    Did your friend choose to have kids before he was prepared to keep them fed? If so, that's all on him.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    That is one way to phrase it and from one perspective that probably seems true. The liberal perspective is that society has a responsibility to itself.
    I understand that. I think that folks should worry about their own responsibilities, and not try to impose responsibilities on everyone else.

    My perspective is that feeding your kids is not my responsibility. The idea that you can make it my responsibility simply by garnering enough votes is a barbarous, might-makes-right ideology.

    I understand the liberal perspective that everyone has a responsibility to help care for their community and that the majority are justified in compelling those with the means to do so to contribute. I just disagree with it.

    You didn't understand the conservative perspective, or at least claimed not to, so hopefully I was able to help.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    This is great. For once a liberal and a conservative were able to have an exchange on this website without calling one-another a name or something equally silly.

    I salute you sir!

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