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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Honestly, I simply do not understand this argument. Especially if the end result is the same thing.
    Do you understand the difference between having sex and getting raped?

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you have no idea of the circumstances people find themselves in. how very judgemental of you.
    You betcha. I will ALWAYS be judgmental about people who neglect and/or abuse their kids. There are public and private social services aplenty for those who do care about their kids, and people who deserve their kids will do whatever they have to do to be sure that they are safe, warm, clothed, fed, and educated. I've devoted a good deal of my life helping disadvantaged families so I am not operating out of a vacuum here. I'm not suggesting that every family will be able to provide more than the basic necessities of life along with love for their kids, but any parent who has kids should be able to do at least that or hand them over to somebody who can and will.

    To think that giving the kids school lunches on the 180 days per year that the kids will be in school is enough is ludicrous. The kids deserve the basics on the the other 185 days too.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You know there's poor people in every country right? You know there's been poor people since people came into existence right?

    You know if a person has enough to own a car, they're required to insure it and if they don't have 5$ for gas, they can take a bus, train, or they can walk right? So if it's down to the last 5$ and there's no food of any kind anywhere, you know they can go to a homeless shelter or a Church and get food right? And children who don't have food get to be wards of the state and taken away from parents who cannot feed them, you know that right?



    How many bloated little naked children running around with flies on their eyes are there exactly today Hatuey? Got an accurate count do you? There's always a choice isn't there...this being one of the countries in the world where opporutinity still abounds for those willing to work for it. There's always an alternative and there's always a helping hand for those in real need through charity and the local community.

    People make mistakes, bad choices ... and they pay for those bad choices. It's not the state or the government's job to feed and clothe them. I can see a helping hand for a temporary amount of time when and if it's needed. Then the poor need to apply themselves and become a functioning part of society, not a leech living off it's host.
    I can't believe I just spent 30 seconds reading this disgusting piece of horse****.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    as a person who got reduced fee lunches for a short time......it was NOT my mother's "fault" that the program was necessary. i really do get tired of people who lump all recipients of aid into the same category.
    That must be a REALLY exciting story involving aliens or pirates or ninjas or something. If she just wasn't able to feed her kid because she got laid off, or ran into regular old financial troubles that she hadn't the foresight to anticipate as a possibility, then yes, it's still her fault.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Does that mean we blame Clinton?
    I'm going to say no;

    President Clinton announces another record budget surplus - September 27, 2000

    "September 27, 2000
    Web posted at: 4:51 p.m. EDT (2051 GMT)

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year's record surplus of $122.7 billion."


    You can try to rewrite history all you want though...
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    This is poverty:



    Your kids missing a meal because you're too stupid to save a few bucks for a real emergency is not.....
    Sorry for the graphic photo, but come on.....

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Do you understand the difference between having sex and getting raped?
    Hardly the same thing, but feel free to up the rhetoric as you wish.

    But I think it is silly that people boohoo because the government does something they don't like. That's the price we pay for not being the only man on a deserted island. In any group of people, you are going to disagree with it in some way. The fact is, nobody is completely happy with what the government does, but everyone has their own personal set of grievences. To claim that a policy is akin to a forceful act is ignorant at best and shows that people who feel this way have no interest in sharing society with people who have different priorities.

    It is one thing to go "yeah, that thing the government is dumb for x, y, z reasons" and another to act like a baby and go "help! help! I'm being oppressed!"

    (not directed at you, just your sentiment) grow the eff up and be an adult.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I guess the Nanny State needs to go home with these people an live their lives for them, because they must be utterly incapable of even feeding their kids, right?
    Do you know that the article goes on to say this?

    "many parents working hourly jobs were unable to earn any money during the week, as the snow forced businesses to close."

    and this?

    "Otto Tambito, a Fairfax County father of two, said his family burned through much of its savings during the week off from school and work. Tambito works as a window cleaner and an electrician, but was unable to travel to jobs. His wife, who cleans houses for a living, was in the same boat.

    "We hope that thing melts down and we start again," he said."


    And this?

    "Maritza Hernandez, a 32-year-old mother who came to pick up food Friday, said her usual baby-sitting income dried up during the snow days, and her husband had no work either. The couple and their 5-year-old son survived all week on beans, tortillas and the occasional egg, she said.

    "We were sad that we didn't have enough to go shopping," she said."



    How come she isn't complaining about how the gov isn't taking care of her?

    Nice try making this about the fabled 'nanny state'.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Do you know that the article goes on to say this?

    "many parents working hourly jobs were unable to earn any money during the week, as the snow forced businesses to close."

    and this?

    "Otto Tambito, a Fairfax County father of two, said his family burned through much of its savings during the week off from school and work. Tambito works as a window cleaner and an electrician, but was unable to travel to jobs. His wife, who cleans houses for a living, was in the same boat.

    "We hope that thing melts down and we start again," he said."


    And this?

    "Maritza Hernandez, a 32-year-old mother who came to pick up food Friday, said her usual baby-sitting income dried up during the snow days, and her husband had no work either. The couple and their 5-year-old son survived all week on beans, tortillas and the occasional egg, she said.

    "We were sad that we didn't have enough to go shopping," she said."



    How come she isn't complaining about how the gov isn't taking care of her?

    Nice try making this about the fabled 'nanny state'.
    Tambito, Hernandez, illegal immigrants?.....

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    You're right, but in my opinion, any parent who does not feed his/her kids has no business with those kids in the first place. The kids are almost certainly being neglected and/or abused in every other way as well.

    Neglected and abused children should be reassigned to people who will not neglect and abuse them.
    Then you are certainly welcome to attempt to convince others of your statist authoritarian views on the subject.

    If you think it is the proper role of the government to intervene in the family to the extent that the government removes the parental rights of a parents simply because they need food assistance for their kids, then lobby congress to codify it into law. However, while social safety-nets are not often successfully challenged in the federal courts, I would put money on such an initiative being ruled unconstitutional.
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