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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Does it not concern you people that the public schools are only feeding these starving children at the most one, maybe two meals a day for 180 days per year? It doesn't bother you that if their parents can't afford to feed them on snow days, they are going hungry on the 185 days that they aren't scheduled to be in school?

    That's what I never understood about the school passing out condoms to school kids as if they only had sex during the school week and who dutifully abstained on the weekends and holidays and over the summer vacation.

    Maybe, just maybe, there is room to demand that parents take care of their kids or arrange for somebody else to do so? I would rather kids be fed every day and not just when they are in school.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Does it not concern you people that the public schools are only feeding these starving children at the most one, maybe two meals a day for 180 days per year? It doesn't bother you that if their parents can't afford to feed them on snow days, they are going hungry on the 185 days that they aren't scheduled to be in school?

    That's what I never understood about the school passing out condoms to school kids as if they only had sex during the school week and who dutifully abstained on the weekends and holidays and over the summer vacation.

    Maybe, just maybe, there is room to demand that parents take care of their kids or arrange for somebody else to do so? I would rather kids be fed every day and not just when they are in school.
    I agree with this but your not going to find anyone that will support the position.

    That's what sucks about any of our similar beliefs, no one will seriously support it once they get in their congressional seats.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, we're talking about State funding here, not Federal funding. States do not directly fund the U.S. military so I'll disagree to your reasoning of "foreign wars". States are not funded by the Federal Government for DYFS, that's part of the States responsibility, so if they are overworked and underfunded - the reason is not because of foreign wars but because of State prioritization of funds or lack thereof.

    But I agree they ARE overworked and under funded at the State level. So why is that and what are we the people going to do about it? My view is to actually CUT lunch, food stamp and welfare services --- take some of that money and put it towards DYFS at the State levels or allow any federal funding of welfare programs to be used by the States as they see fit. Not cut entirely but put caps on the length of time and put oversight on them to curb abuse. Family's who live off the government must be motivated to become part of society and not a parasite living off the government host.
    You don't know much about how state and federal funding are intertwined do you? Let's just say less is coming from the federal level which means less to available at the state level. That's one of the main reasons costs are going up for the states. Eisenhower has a famous quote on what military spending does for the average American. You might want to look it up. But I'll bet even he didn't think we'd be stupid enough to spend a trillion dollars on some sandbox war we didn't need to be in.

    BTW there's already all kinds of caps and the length of time people can be on welfare, unemployment etc. You really need to get out there and educate yourself. In my state you have to apply for jobs every week or you don't collect unemployment. End of story. And welfare isn't a free ride. There's a time limit.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I agree with this but your not going to find anyone that will support the position.

    That's what sucks about any of our similar beliefs, no one will seriously support it once they get in their congressional seats.
    Yup. They would be accused of being cruel and wanting to starve children just as some of us on this thread have been accused.

    God forbid that we put an emphasis on parents being responsible to actually make sure that their kids are fed, clothed, sheltered, educated, protected, disciplined, and loved, and if you aren't up to the job, don't have kids. That was once the societal norm in this country. And it's sure more humane than thinking the government serving as part time parent is making everything just hunky dory.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You don't know much about how state and federal funding are intertwined do you? Let's just say less is coming from the federal level which means less to available at the state level. That's one of the main reasons costs are going up for the states. Eisenhower has a famous quote on what military spending does for the average American. You might want to look it up. But I'll bet even he didn't think we'd be stupid enough to spend a trillion dollars on some sandbox war we didn't need to be in.

    BTW there's already all kinds of caps and the length of time people can be on welfare, unemployment etc. You really need to get out there and educate yourself. In my state you have to apply for jobs every week or you don't collect unemployment. End of story. And welfare isn't a free ride. There's a time limit.
    Tell me what the cap is for welfare in your state and what the are the steps for extending it. I can tell you from experience, from as you say "getting out there", that extending welfare benefits especially in urban areas is easy to do, requires no meeting or questionnaires. I can also tell you that there are very smart people taking advantage of the system and have found ways to navigate the "free ride". In fact, they have no job to distract them from manipulating the system and continuing on that free ride. What you seem to not take into account is, not all people are like you or me. We would not think of trying to bilk the system and we'd follow the rules or like you said, we'd get cut off. Not so with everyone... I think I've lived and experienced enough of "out there" to know better, and while each state is different, I know that each state has their fair share of folks who have lived off welfare, food stamps, jumped from worksmans comp, to insurance, to unemployment back to welfare, and around and around for decades. That IS their job - to manipulate the system and to get a free ride.
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No they don't. Hence nutritional facts printed on packaged foods by law.
    Yes by law and yet you think people don't know an apple is more nutritious than a Twinkie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Sure it's the part you cut out of the post which I pointed out to you. Want me to post it again? Apparently you DON'T know what you said...
    No that is a lie. I posted the entire post I made to YOU. I replied specifically to your response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Try reading the entire post and not just one's where you're insulting others.
    You mean "thread" not post. I am only reading the ones responding to me or I have responded to. If you don't like it, don't make false generalizations initially.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Believe it or not, all my comments don't all come out at once - discussion sometimes makes us think more, and we add comments after the original comments.
    If you had admitted your blanket statements earlier and stated clearly your intention all your dishonesty and trying to project onto me could have been avoided.

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    #1 This was not cut out of my initial response to you. Hence your accusing me of cutting anything out is a lie.
    #2 Notice the part in red. Damn, not a blanket statement.
    #3 Still waiting for you to show me the blanket statements I made about the poor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Next time, you need to read more than just your replies. Other people have had good points in this thread...
    Because I am so interested in your replies to others that had literally nothing to do with my initial statement to you, or what I pointed out.

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    Excellent - we leave this discussion on a positive note!
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's broader than just food... kids won the lunch program are a symptom of a larger issue which is the level of poverty. I suggest cutting the lunch program but the support for getting the family on their feet must be part of that cut or else we'll just be kicking poor people when they're down. Give them tools to better themselves so kids food or foodstamps no longer is the issue and will no longer be needed.

    Cuts and identifying parasites shouldn't be carried out unless we can help those who want the help, out of their predicament.
    If Obama would do something for jobs instead of grow government many of these parents would be back to work and able to buy food.

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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

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    Hyperbole much?
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    It is very sad and in some states they do have programs set up where kids can go get a free meal on Sat. I feel we need more programs like this as I am all for helping children.

    No child should go to bed hungry in the U.S.A. Our kids should get three meals a day plus snacks!
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    Re: Snow days mean less food for many students

    Guess you best get ready to give up 911, your Fire Dept., etc. if you feel there should not no social programs.

    In your world everybody would simply fend for themselves! Who needs the police, right? Who needs their roads paved, who needs someone to go to if your home is burning down from a fire!

    It would be so nice to get to pick what our money goes to and social programs be damned cause we are all just looking out for #1! While we are at? Lets just get rid of public schools and make kids of our country go back to doing slave labor back in the cotton pickin days.

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