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    Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

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    Reporting from Denver - At Utah's West Jordan High School, the halls have swirled lately with debate over the merits of 12th grade:

    Is it a waste of time? Are students ready for the real world at 17?

    For student body president J.D. Williams, 18, the answer to both questions is a resounding no. "I need this year," he said, adding that most of his classmates feel the same way.

    The sudden buzz over the relative value of senior year stems from a recent proposal by state Sen. Chris Buttars that Utah make a dent in its budget gap by eliminating the 12th grade.
    The notion quickly gained some traction among supporters who agreed with the Republican's assessment that many seniors fritter away their final year of high school, but faced vehement opposition from other quarters, including in his hometown of West Jordan.

    "My parents are against it," Williams said. "All the teachers at the school are against it. I'm against it."

    Buttars has since toned down the idea, suggesting instead that senior year become optional for students who complete their required credits early. He estimated the move could save up to $60 million, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.
    I think it's a good idea, a lot of time is wasted in senior year doing fun and not necessarily educational stuff.
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    There goes senior prom

    its gonna hurt division one prospects for athletic scholarships though



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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There goes senior prom

    its gonna hurt division one prospects for athletic scholarships though
    Two completely unimportant things in relation to education.
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    That's one way to balance the education budget, cut back the number of years of free education. Maybe cutting the number of school days per year would help, too.

    Then, we could find out that ignorance really is a lot more expensive than schooling.
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's one way to balance the education budget, cut back the number of years of free education. Maybe cutting the number of school days per year would help, too.

    Then, we could find out that ignorance really is a lot more expensive than schooling.
    Do you really believe that 1 year less of high school equals ignorance?

    I had to take and pass my graduation exams in 11th grade.
    If I pass them then what was the point of 12th grade?
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    I think it's a good idea, a lot of time is wasted in senior year doing fun and not necessarily educational stuff.
    I don't know about completely eliminating it, but for those kids who are ready to move on before the 12th grade I don't see the problem. Kids shouldn't have to be stymied into attending an extra year of school, if they are capable of college level entry earlier. Some kids will still need it, like the ones who jacked around their frosh year getting into "shennanigans" rather than attending class(like me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I don't know about completely eliminating it, but for those kids who are ready to move on before the 12th grade I don't see the problem. Kids shouldn't have to be stymied into attending an extra year of school, if they are capable of college level entry earlier. Some kids will still need it, like the ones who jacked around their frosh year getting into "shennanigans" rather than attending class(like me).
    I screwed around a lot between 9-11th grade, enough to put me behind a year and a half(in credits) but I still passed my graduation test in 11th grade.

    If you can pass the graduation test, you should be able to move on.
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I don't know about completely eliminating it, but for those kids who are ready to move on before the 12th grade I don't see the problem. Kids shouldn't have to be stymied into attending an extra year of school, if they are capable of college level entry earlier. Some kids will still need it, like the ones who jacked around their frosh year getting into "shennanigans" rather than attending class(like me).
    I jacked around for all four years, not just as a freshman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    its gonna hurt division one prospects for athletic scholarships though
    In football many kids work hard to graduate early from school(in Jan.) so they can get on campus on their university for spring football practice.
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    Re: Utah Considers Cutting 12th Grade - Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I jacked around for all four years, not just as a freshman.
    With the exception of PE, I had to redo my entire freshman year over the course of my soph and junior years. The nice part was, that all my friends that I was cutting class with were in the same boat.
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