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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is why polls, as evidence of anything, are bull****.

    I bet there are a buncha big, "if's", in the mothodology of this little number.
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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

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    The person to blame in a rape is the rapist. In the end, they made the choice.
    i think men should be outraged by this assumption. it implies that men are unable to control themselves.
    Which assumption is that? My own assumptions are more or less the exact opposite of what you've stated here, so...
    The truth may be out there, but lies are in your head. ~Terry Pratchett

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    No absolutely means no.

    However, I have no doubt some women try to lure men into a situation where they can claim rape for monetary reasons.

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    I don't give a **** if a woman is walking around nude and propositioning every man in the vicinity except one. That does not make it her fault if that one decides to force her to have sex. I don't care if she's shaking her naked tits right in his face. If she says 'no' to intercourse, then everything after that is HIS responsibility, NOT hers. I don't give a **** how turned on he is. I don't give a **** how much he wants her. I don't give a **** how much she deliberately (or inadvertently) turned him on. If she says no, and he persists, it is rape and it is HIS responsibility.

    However, there are a number of women who cry rape who were not actually raped. Those are the women who make it difficult for actual rape victims to step forward. Those are the women who perpetuate the whole 'it's the victim's fault' mentality. Those are the women I'd love to see strung up in the middle of town.

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Rape is quite the touchy subject.... So maybe arguing the point in another lite is preferable.

    Say a wealthy man is walking down the street (with flashy jewelry and a fat wallet) in an area that is well known for robbery, etc.... How much sympathy do you have if he happens to get robbed? Does he at least share part of the blame for the lack of personal responsibility?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    You'd think a gazelle would stick with the herd to avoid being eaten.

    IMO I think people should go out with friends and avoid excessively risky behavior without good reason, carry a gun, stay in shape, and know how to kick the **** out of any would-be thug; but I'm a guy, what do I know, I'll keep my misogynist opinion that women should be responsible and self reliant to myself.

    Hey if she want's to be a victim, this is America, it's her body, her choice, so let her get the **** beat out of her if that's what she wants.

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't give a **** if a woman is walking around nude and propositioning every man in the vicinity except one. That does not make it her fault if that one decides to force her to have sex. I don't care if she's shaking her naked tits right in his face. If she says 'no' to intercourse, then everything after that is HIS responsibility, NOT hers. I don't give a **** how turned on he is. I don't give a **** how much he wants her. I don't give a **** how much she deliberately (or inadvertently) turned him on. If she says no, and he persists, it is rape and it is HIS responsibility.

    However, there are a number of women who cry rape who were not actually raped. Those are the women who make it difficult for actual rape victims to step forward. Those are the women who perpetuate the whole 'it's the victim's fault' mentality. Those are the women I'd love to see strung up in the middle of town.
    Hell yeah!! **** those stuffy Conservatives and their bigoted ideals like "self respect"!!

    You wana be trailer-trash? You go be the best truck-stop cum-dumpster you can be girl!!

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No absolutely means no.

    However, I have no doubt some women try to lure men into a situation where they can claim rape for monetary reasons.
    yep, no doubt in my mind that is what happened with William Kennedy Smith. Perhaps the same with Mike Tyson too



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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Hell yeah!! **** those stuffy Conservatives and their bigoted ideals like "self respect"!!
    One's self respect has absolutely nothing to do with being the victim of a violent crime.

    Your implication that a person who is lacking self respect (in YOUR eyes) is somehow responsible for someone enacting a violent crime upon them is insulting, at best.

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    Re: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You'd think a gazelle would stick with the herd to avoid being eaten.

    IMO I think people should go out with friends and avoid excessively risky behavior without good reason, carry a gun, stay in shape, and know how to kick the **** out of any would-be thug; but I'm a guy, what do I know, I'll keep my misogynist opinion that women should be responsible and self reliant to myself.

    Hey if she want's to be a victim, this is America, it's her body, her choice, so let her get the **** beat out of her if that's what she wants.
    Reminds me of an ole gal I used to know. She went out with a guy that exhibited all the signs of a sexual preditor; was even warned by people who knew him that he had been known to be forceful; then was all shocked and horrified when he raped her.

    No, it's not her fault, per say, but she didn't employ enough common sense to keep herself out of that position.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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