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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

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    Damn that federalism! Don't localities know that they are only supposed to use their 10th amendment powers to do conservative things?!!
    Way to misuse the tenth there. States and localities are not supposed to hinder life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness without due process, along with they must protect BOR protections. The Fed is only supposed to intervene when those protections are ignored. Besides, what the hell does federalism/anti-federalism have to do with this thread, or did you just feel like misrepresenting?
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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Don't veggies make global warming worse?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    What happened to the "BN Specialist"?

    On holiday?

    The BN forum seems to have become filled with all this hyper-partisan non-story crap.

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Way to misuse the tenth there. States and localities are not supposed to hinder life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness without due process, along with they must protect BOR protections. The Fed is only supposed to intervene when those protections are ignored. Besides, what the hell does federalism/anti-federalism have to do with this thread, or did you just feel like misrepresenting?

    Conservatives love to argue that the localities and the states should make the important decisions about our lives since they are closer to the people. But whenever states do things they don't like (gay marriage, medical marijuana, health care) then suddenly they are attacked and laws are even passed on the federal level to prevent them from doing so.

    This seemed to me to be another case of "No! Wait! When we said localities should have lots of power, we didn't mean power to do things we disagree with!!!"

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Conservatives love to argue that the localities and the states should make the important decisions about our lives since they are closer to the people. But whenever states do things they don't like (gay marriage, medical marijuana, health care) then suddenly they are attacked and laws are even passed on the federal level to prevent them from doing so.

    This seemed to me to be another case of "No! Wait! When we said localities should have lots of power, we didn't mean power to do things we disagree with!!!"
    Localities shouldn't have the power to take away personal liberties. I think we can all agree on that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Localities shouldn't have the power to take away personal liberties. I think we can all agree on that one.
    Of course.

    Now, do you have an example of that happening?

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Of course.

    Now, do you have an example of that happening?
    This event is the beginning if such abolition of personal liberties.

    First, they pass a tax, to see what kind of blowback they get. If that goes well enough, then they pass a law.

    Personally, the tax alone is bad enough, because we shouldn't have to pay punitive taxes for excercising our civil rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This event is the beginning if such abolition of personal liberties.

    First, they pass a tax, to see what kind of blowback they get. If that goes well enough, then they pass a law.

    Personally, the tax alone is bad enough, because we shouldn't have to pay punitive taxes for excercising our civil rights.
    So the answer is "No."

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    So the answer is "No."
    Actually, the answer isn't, "no". Unless you would be ok with a punitive tax placed on people for not eating enough beef.

    Would you go along with that?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Harvard Hometown Plans Coercive Taxes, Veganism to Stop Climate 'Emergency'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, the answer isn't, "no". Unless you would be ok with a punitive tax placed on people for not eating enough beef.

    Would you go along with that?
    Ah, I see.

    So if you agree with a tax, it's a valid governmental power, but if you disagree then it's a violation of your rights. Got it.

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