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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Dude, seriously.

    I have defeated your argument that Ft. Hood was Obama's fault. It clearly was not. Thanks for conceding.

    I am 100% sure that Obama has talked personally with Army CoS GEN Casey to take measures to ensure that this doesn't happen again. Actually, I know it for a fact. We have already seen the residual effects of policy changes.

    I am not saying that the President should not take action here. I am simply saying that blaming him for what happened is a bridge to far, just like I would say that if Bush was President.

    It's a matter of understanding the chain of responsibility and WHO at WHAT level can effectively prevent individual action. What you are saying is that Obama found out about MAJ Hassan and said, "oh well, this guy sounds like he's not crazy, so let him be". We of course know that it didn't happen that way. What we do know is that MAJ Hassan's behavior was noticed and reported and nothing was done. THAT is the fault of his immediate supervisors.
    I have conceded nothing. Obama is responsible for the military.

    What happened is they were bound to be politically correct. Thank you liberals.

    Will Obama make sure it is fixed?

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    [quoteThis particular officer slipped through the cracks because of the politically correct climate in the military. Although, you should know, when his behavior was the most radical, Bush was still President]
    Horse **** his behavior was most radical when he killed the 13 people at Ft Hood.........

    How you and your daddy Obama can not say the words that it was a terrorist attack just to appease some muslims in the Mid East is beyond me........
    It wasn't a terrorist attack.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It was nice to see General Petraeus on Meet the Press today not coming out in full support of dropping DADT and also Governor Pawletty say if it ain't broke don't fix it............
    But it is broke.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    It wasn't a terrorist attack.
    It was you just refuse to admit it.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You think this will happen before the military finishes there one year investigation?
    Well given this recent study...

    Gay Soldiers Don’t Cause Disruption, Study Says - NYTimes.com

    ...it isn't exactly impossible. Unless you are saying there is something wrong with the US military that makes it inferior to those other militaries.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Please respond to the counter arguments.

    You should being placing blame on his military chain of command that knew this officer was crazy years ago and chose to do nothing about it, primarily because of the PC climate of the Army that has always existed...it just didn't start when Obama was elected. That's something I would know and you would not.

    Oh, and by the way, consider before accusing me of "not saying the word terrorist and appeasing muslims" that unlike you, I have actually fought terrorists in combat. You never have and never will.

    Who's the terror appeaser now, buddy?
    Its left wing PC.....The chain of command was afraid to take action against Hasan for fear of being called racists or offending Muslims.......That is Obama preaching by telling them this is not a judeo.christian country........

    Its true I have never fought terrorist but I can tell you after 9/11/01 I would have volunteered in a New York Heart beat to go back on active duty...I wanted to do something to help my country......Unfortunately I am way to old and the only thing I could do is help my country financially.......

    You and Obama are so politically correct and its killing us........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    It wasn't a terrorist attack.
    Another politically correct left winger who is scared to death of offending radical Islam........disgusting........

    Major Hasan is a terrorist and committed a terrorist act...case closed.........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Another politically correct left winger who is scared to death of offending radical Islam........disgusting........

    Major Hasan is a terrorist and committed a terrorist act...case closed.........
    It was domestic terrorism, not foreign terrorism. There is a fundamental difference when one of our own is attacking, versus an outsider.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its left wing PC.....The chain of command was afraid to take action against Hasan for fear of being called racists or offending Muslims.......That is Obama preaching by telling them this is not a judeo.christian country........
    I can assure you that the PC problem in the military existed long before anyone ever heard the name Obama.


    You and Obama are so politically correct and its killing us........
    I am the anti-PC at work, believe that. I don't give a **** about hurting anyone's feelings if they **** up. I call a spade a spade. Proof by soldiers telling IG on me when they get evaluations that they don't like. That's to funny.

    If I was Hasan's CO, his ass would have been out from the second I smelled crazy.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its left wing PC.....The chain of command was afraid to take action against Hasan for fear of being called racists or offending Muslims.......That is Obama preaching by telling them this is not a judeo.christian country........
    You have got to be ****ing kidding? That is a really stupid argument. Obama, saying this is not a Judeo Christian, country had nothing at all to do with the situation or the developments afterwords.

    Please post some evidence pointing to President Obama making the statement contributing to the incident or any repercussions?

    This should be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its true I have never fought terrorist but I can tell you after 9/11/01 I would have volunteered in a New York Heart beat to go back on active duty...I wanted to do something to help my country......Unfortunately I am way to old and the only thing I could do is help my country financially.......
    Small blessings are the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You and Obama are so politically correct and its killing us........
    The only thing killing us is stupidity, like your original statement here.

    It's funny you talk about "libs" and call fellow conservative "leftist" because they don't tow your insane (not even conservative) rhetoric. You are not even a conservative, you are like a parody of the absolute worse conservatism has to offer.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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