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    Well we can watch them all here in the PNW.....I watch a little of CNN but mostly FOX because although they lean right they do have guests on that are liberal that give their opinion whereas MSNBC has none and CNN only has a few..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    THat is why when he was shooting he hollered Ali Akbar?
    It was actually "Allah Akbar"...God is great.

    You lefttes are in a total state of denial....I don't know when your going to wake up and realize we are in a war against terror.....It better be soon.....
    This particular officer slipped through the cracks because of the politically correct climate in the military. Although, you should know, when his behavior was the most radical, Bush was still President. Not sure you can blame a President for the actions of one individual that may or may not be affiliated with any group and was already in the country, with a secret clearance from the U.S. Government.

    Putting the blame for Fort Hood on Obama is a reach. If that rationale is the standard, then Bush is to blame, also.

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    You can say that General Colin Powell is stupid, by I won't.
    Is he stupid for being for it once, or stupid for being against it now?

    Or is it that Powell, like a lot of people, realize that what seemed like a good idea once is no longer a good idea?

    I think it's the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    It was actually "Allah Akbar"...God is great.



    This particular officer slipped through the cracks because of the politically correct climate in the military. Although, you should know, when his behavior was the most radical, Bush was still President. Not sure you can blame a President for the actions of one individual that may or may not be affiliated with any group and was already in the country, with a secret clearance from the U.S. Government.


    Putting the blame for Fort Hood on Obama is a reach. If that rationale is the standard, then Bush is to blame, also
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    You being military know that the Buck stops with the prez........How is Bush the blame for Fort Hood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You being military know that the Buck stops with the prez........How is Bush the blame for Fort Hood?
    I can see how both would be to blame. This is a problem that was many years in the making and could (should) have been stopped at several points, but the guy kept falling through the cracks, under multiple presidents.

    Really though, it doesn't matter what kind of security we put in place, crazy people will do crazy things and there is little we can do to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You being military know that the Buck stops with the prez........How is Bush the blame for Fort Hood?
    Did you not read the post?

    The man was behaving this way under the Bush administration also, and nobody stepped up. By the time Obama took office, he was already well into this behavior, already had his position in the military.

    Do you honestly think the President should spend his time individually reviewing every soldier out there? ANY President. This was a failure of the soldier's direct superiors to properly monitor his behavior and raise flags when it went in that direction. There is no way President Obama had ever heard of this man before the shooting.

    It is utterly staggering how conservatives manage to warp their perception of the world when it supports their viewpoints.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I can see how both would be to blame. This is a problem that was many years in the making and could (should) have been stopped at several points, but the guy kept falling through the cracks, under multiple presidents.

    Really though, it doesn't matter what kind of security we put in place, crazy people will do crazy things and there is little we can do to stop it.

    Well the first thing Obama has to come to terms with is that this is no police action but it is and actual war on terror........

    I wonder why that did not happen when Bush was president......I agree with you there are a lot of soft targets in this country after 9/11 I thought we would have some type of terror attack against this country every week.........Didn't happen.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well the first thing Obama has to come toterms with is that this is no police action but it is and actual war on terror........
    What gives you the idea that he hasn't?

    (also good job ducking arguments you cant win)
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What gives you the idea that he hasn't?

    (also good job ducking arguments you cant win)
    Because of what he says in his speeches and because of what his subordinates say.........
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well the first thing Obama has to come toterms with is that this is no police action but it is and actual war on terror........
    I think the speech he received when he received the Nobel Prize is an indication of his stance.

    And yet, a decade into a new century, this old architecture is buckling under the weight of new threats. The world may no longer shudder at the prospect of war between two nuclear superpowers, but proliferation may increase the risk of catastrophe. Terrorism has long been a tactic, but modern technology allows a few small men with outsized rage to murder innocents on a horrific scale.
    It looks like he recognizes terrorism as a threat to me.

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