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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Obviously the parents aren't doing their job in this department because the schools are teaching this stuff. The same goes for sexual education. If parents were collectively responsible enough to teach their kids this stuff the schools wouldn't need to.

    So you have no proof. It has nothing to do with what parents teach and has everything to do with what the GLSEN and gays want taught to kids to indoctrinate them that gay is normal and it is ok to be gay.

    Well, I hate to break this to you, but it is okay to be gay. Would you mind showing me where it states in our federal laws that it isn't okay?

    In your opinion but I do not know parents that want a gay child.

    I don't recall any teachers saying it is normal or abnormal. They are teaching kids about diversity.

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    Gay Penguins Possible in Public Schools: Parents Angry | RightReborn.com


    Attorneys for the school board in Alameda, CA are saying that parents will have no legal right to remove their children from class if a new curriculum, with lessons on homosexual, bisexual, and transgender individuals, is implemented. Targets of the initiative include innocent minds in kindergarten, as young as five years old.

    Parents of the students in suburban San Francisco and Oakland, where the Unified School District is located, say they are being bullied by school administrators. It is the parents belief that issues of sexuality are best learned at home and are not age-appropriate for those enrolled in elementary school. The parents are also outraged that they are being told that they do not have the right to remove their children from the class, especially when the teachings are in direct conflict with their religious views.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Do you REALLY want to get into a discussion about "normal" again? I would drop that, if I were you. A school's responsibility in this matter is to teach what exists without moral implications. Since homosexuality is NOT an illness, and though not typical from a statistical sense, it is not an abnormal type of sexuality or relationship, portraying it as "normal" is completely within the parameters of a school setting. Morality and values determine "normal".
    Not in many parents eyes.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    From a scientific and informational perspective, being gay is a good and normal lifestyle. From a moral and values oriented perspective... that is up to the individual or family. The former is the school's responsibility; providing information. The latter is the individual/family responsibility.
    It is not. It is the parents. Kindergarten is not the place it shows the schools are trying to indoctrinate the kids and will do it despite what parents say or think.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That you are presenting overdramatic propaganda? Absolutely. That your overdramatic propaganda is accurate? Absolutely not. Provide evidence.
    I have but as always you will not accept facts.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If the law is changed what can I do.....I will obey the law until its revoked when our military goes to hell in a hand basket as there will be violence against gays and a mass exodus of good Officers and Chiefs causing the military cayous....There will be lots of fights if a gay guy looks at a straight guy in the wrong way.........It will be a total waste........
    Well despite your pessimism, I am happy to hear that you would support following law. That is a refreshing thing to hear.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not in many parents eyes.
    That's OK. That is a moral/values perspective, and though I disagree, it is their right to present their morals/values to their children.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Read the article. He was arrested for trespassing.
    Why was he there?

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is not. It is the parents. Kindergarten is not the place it shows the schools are trying to indoctrinate the kids and will do it despite what parents say or think.
    Your word "indoctrinate" is a misrepresentation... of course. It is the school's responsibility to present information that is age appropriate. It is the parents responsibility to instill morals and values.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why was he there?
    Irrelevant to why he was arrested. He could have been their for a bake sale and refused to leave. He still would have been arrested. He could have made his case and left when asked... and followed the law, and he wouldn't have been arrested. He was arrested for trespassing. Why he trespassed is irrelevant.

    Do you think that someone who robs a store because they are poor and need food should not be arrested?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I have but as always you will not accept facts.
    As always, you present no facts, or spin/misrepresent them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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