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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Than would should teachers say it is normal and promote that as moral? The parents should teach this not schools.
    Do you REALLY want to get into a discussion about "normal" again? I would drop that, if I were you. A school's responsibility in this matter is to teach what exists without moral implications. Since homosexuality is NOT an illness, and though not typical from a statistical sense, it is not an abnormal type of sexuality or relationship, portraying it as "normal" is completely within the parameters of a school setting. Morality and values determine "normal".
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

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    And this comment is nothing but overdramatic propaganda. The sky is NOT falling.
    It is fact

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The problem is confusing a young child with 2 different ways of what a gay is and if they are a good and normal lifestyle.
    From a scientific and informational perspective, being gay is a good and normal lifestyle. From a moral and values oriented perspective... that is up to the individual or family. The former is the school's responsibility; providing information. The latter is the individual/family responsibility.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Indoctrination for what? Letting people know they exist? Wanting to be treated the same as anyone else? I know...that's some pretty insidious stuff.
    That they are normal and being gay is good. Many parents would teach that gay is immoral. That is the parents right and schools have no business giving teachings that interfere with that at such a young age.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is fact
    That you are presenting overdramatic propaganda? Absolutely. That your overdramatic propaganda is accurate? Absolutely not. Provide evidence.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Firstly, the article title is a complete misrepresentation. The father was NOT jailed for opposing gay education in kindergarten. He was jailed for trespassing. Secondly, gay education was NOT being taught. DIVERSITY was, families with other races and other sexualities. Was this appropriate for kindergarten? There seems to be no sexual themes involved, but I would need to look at the book for a complete determination. I've seen books like this and they have been completely benign.
    He was arrested for not wanting gay being taught. He did not want his son taught that being gay is good and normal.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That they are normal and being gay is good.
    From a scientific/factual standpoint, this is accurate.

    Many parents would teach that gay is immoral. That is the parents right and schools have no business giving teachings that interfere with that at such a young age.
    It is the parents job to teach morality. The school provides the information.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That they are normal and being gay is good. Many parents would teach that gay is immoral. That is the parents right and schools have no business giving teachings that interfere with that at such a young age.
    Show me where in the curriculum it says that being gay is good. And I'm not even going to get into an argument about normal and the fact that it is a subjective term.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He was arrested for not wanting gay being taught. He did not want his son taught that being gay is good and normal.
    Read the article. He was arrested for trespassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    From the article:

    The meeting ended with Parker's arrest after he refused to leave the school, and the Lexington man spent the night in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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