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    Talking Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    According to this poll, Americans favor gays serving openly in the military by more than a 2 to 1 margin. I will now wait for a few to proclaim that FOX News is now part of the elite Liberal media establishment.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually...

    If you really want to get an accurate poll of the people it affects VETERANS shouldn't be asked at all. This doesn't affect veterans, IE those already out of the military at all.

    Ask those CURRENTLY serving and those between in the late teens / early 20's that are still of an age (Coming out of high school or coming out of college) that is most likely to enter into the military.

    Asking 60 year old Veterans if they think gays should be allowed in or not is no different in regards to "people it will actually affect" than asking some random 30 year old that never served and never planned to serve. Unless you're saying that 60 year old veterans are suddenly going to be on a ship serving again in the next little bit....
    I did not say retirees I said Veterans, they can be any age probably about 22 and up.....I do think retirees should be polled to though.......I mean they poll they took was of people who were clueless about life in the military...If you can poll them then you can poll people who have been there and experienced
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I did not say retirees I said Veterans, they can be any age probably about 22 and up.....I do think retirees should be polled to though.......I mean they poll they took was of people who were clueless about life in the military...If you can poll them then you can poll people who have been there and experienced
    what its like,,,,,

    What evidence do you have that veterans were excluded in the polling?
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From the link:



    I knew more supported than opposed, but this is by a much larger margin than I thought. Wow.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I did not say retirees I said Veterans, they can be any age probably about 22 and up.....I do think retirees should be polled to though.......I mean they poll they took was of people who were clueless about life in the military...If you can poll them then you can poll people who have been there and experienced
    what its like,,,,,
    But Navy, that's not what you said. You didn't say it was important to get ideas from those that have a life in the military. You wanted a more accurate poll by asking people it AFFECTS...

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You want to get and accurate poll? Poll the people it affects...
    It doesn't AFFECT Veterans, not in any definite tangible way. I don't care if they're 22 or 82, if they're no longer in the military having gays in the military affects them no more than any other person that isn't in the military.

    No one is a better judge of what the military can handle in regards to gays being members right now than those that are in it right now, and next to that are those that are most likely to be in it in the future.

    If 80% of Veterans said "NO GAYS IN THE MILITARY!" and 80% of the current military said "Gays in the Military" than frankly I would say "Too bad, so sad" to the veterans because they're not the people its affecting, and I don't care how much they may be "experienced" with the military, the people actively doing it are the best judge of if they're fine with having gays or not serving next to them.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    According to this poll, Americans favor gays serving openly in the military by more than a 2 to 1 margin. I will now wait for a few to proclaim that FOX News is now part of the elite Liberal media establishment.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

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    But for that matter, he thinks that modern translations of the Bible are "too liberal" and he's writing his own version called "The Conservative Bible Project".
    Not that I give a damn about a Fox News poll, but I love the wikipedia wannabes. I got a brilliant idea...let's take a brilliant, but completely flawed system which is against us conservatives (everything's a conspiracy), and do the exact same thing, but with less of an audience and for conservatives. This totally makes sense, guys!
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    According to this poll, Americans favor gays serving openly in the military by more than a 2 to 1 margin. I will now wait for a few to proclaim that FOX News is now part of the elite Liberal media establishment.

    Article is here.
    WOW, a Fox News poll that does not add up to 100+%.. impressive!

    on a serious note, nice news
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    WOW, a Fox News poll that does not add up to 100+%.. impressive!
    The reason it doesn't add up to 100% is that the story didn't print those who said they didn't know. Sheesh.
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

    The poll results do not surprise me at all. What surprises me is that FAUXNews released the results. That goes against their propaganda plan and could quite possibly alienate some in their flock.

    Besides, no one gives polls any credibility, regardless of who conducts the poll, when the poll doesn't reflect their opinion or their view of reality.

    What DID surprise me was Dick Cheney on television this morning saying that the only poll that should matter is how the miltary feels about it themselves as it directly affects their job thus affecting national security. My surprise was that I agree with him.

    And because the chiefs in uniform are now stating that the military can handle it, (it being a generational thing with today's service men and womens attitudes that are more gay tolerant) Cheney thinks it's time to drop the restrictions on gays serving in the US.

    And I agreed with him again. That's TWICE! Tell me that isn't purely shocking.
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