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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

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    When if the really wanted you safe, they would enforce mandatory self-defense and firearm training for all their students, as well as mandatory requirements to carry a handgun, shotgun, or preferably an assult rifle at all times...............................

    The second amendment absolutely, can save your life when seconds count and the cops are minutes away.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The second amendment absolutely, can save your life when seconds count and the cops are minutes away.
    Do you guys really think students should be allowed to carry guns to school? College? High School?
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Do you guys really think students should be allowed to carry guns to school? College? High School?
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Do you guys really think students should be allowed to carry guns to school? College? High School?
    absolutely not, it was the faculty that was solely involved BTW. Non the less this situation like this can not be stopped, somebody short circuiting is almost impossible to predict. Although if in a perfect world with this imperfect situation, if the facility was armed this may have been stopped instead of the cops arriving to body bag the dead. No easy answers to these problems.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The second amendment absolutely, can save your life when seconds count and the cops are minutes away.
    Though armed security guards in such cases are usually seconds away.
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    absolutely not, it was the faculty that was solely involved BTW. Non the less this situation like this can not be stopped, somebody short circuiting is almost impossible to predict. Although if in a perfect world with this imperfect situation, if the facility was armed this may have been stopped instead of the cops arriving to body bag the dead. No easy answers to these problems.
    There are some that believe students should be armed. Sorry, I thought you were one of them.
    I agree that when someone decides to commit an atrocity like this there is no stopping them. Most faculty do not want to be armed and I don't think you could force them. You are right, there are no easy answers to these problems.
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I agree about the second amendment but, having weapons on a college campus is not the place for obvious reasons. If kids actually had total control over their emotions then perhaps.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Though armed security guards in such cases are usually seconds away.
    You would have to have as many guards as civilians to be seconds away from everyone. Schools can be big places.
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Though armed security guards in such cases are usually seconds away.
    I agree with USA, you would have to have a guard for every student, bottom line is that these things will happen. Now in the real world as a adult conducting your daily affairs either at home, work or play, being armed definitely increases your chance of survivability in circumstances like this. Although when the rubber meets the road, it all depends on your ability and capability to act in a extreme stressful situation. This requires training on the same level as law enforcement and military, and a constant practice of it for your average Joe. Don't get me wrong I am a very strang believer for the seconf amendment and i believe it should unhindered by our government.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    absolutely not, it was the faculty that was solely involved BTW. Non the less this situation like this can not be stopped, somebody short circuiting is almost impossible to predict. Although if in a perfect world with this imperfect situation, if the facility was armed this may have been stopped instead of the cops arriving to body bag the dead. No easy answers to these problems.
    Your statement that there is no easy answers to these problems is the best summation here.

    I have guns but don't have a concealed permit. Have thought about it be just never did. I do train to fight and workout 6 days a week but if I was the first person to be shot that training is useless. Same if I had a pistol on me as the first victim doesn't stand a chance whether he is sitting with a uzi or is Jet Li.

    Violence that pops up in the most unlikely places is always going to shock us. It is almost impossible to avoid. Some people just don't have that ability to respond quickly. Nobody really knows how one would react. I like to think I would figure I am dead anyway and charged her. Just as the old adage says," charge a gun and run from a knife" you may have a chance.

    Had my neighbor's house catch on fire few years back. They were just mumbling zombies as I ran over and got in their car to back it down out of the driveway away from the roaring fire so it didn't catch and also to allow better access for the firemen.

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