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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Regardless of what someone says in the administration now; you should have no problems finding quotes from the campaign talking about reinstating the assault weapons ban if you cant find any admit it.
    And here's where you you say 'thank you Goobie, I should have never doubted you".

    Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
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    Once again this has nothing to do with the topic.
    One again - just addrssing your question and assertion.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Regardless of what someone says in the administration now; you should have no problems finding quotes from the campaign talking about reinstating the assault weapons ban if you cant find any admit it.

    Once again this has nothing to do with the topic.
    No problem at all.

    "As a long-time resident and elected official of Chicago, Barack Obama has seen the impact of fully automatic weapons in the hands of criminals," then-Sen. Barack Obama's campaign stated. "Thus, Senator Obama supports making permanent the expired federal Assault Weapon Ban. These weapons, such as AK-47s, belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets. These are also not weapons that are used by hunters and sportsmen."

    President Obama Suggests Pushing for "Assault Weapon" Ban Not In the Cards - Political Punch
    Is the president backing off his campaign promise to re-instate the ban?

    "Well, the President's position was known in the campaign: He supports it,"

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ent-ob-17.html
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And here's where you you say 'thank you Goobie, I should have never doubted you".



    Urban Policy | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team


    One again - just addrssing your question and assertion.
    Change.gov was created after he won the election. This is not something from the campaign. Would you like to try again Goobie?

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Change.gov was created after he won the election. This is not something from the campaign. Would you like to try again Goobie?
    One of two things is true:
    -This policy point was originally part of His campaign, as Holder said
    -He hid this policy point until after the election.
    You choose.

    If you choose door #2, you get to then prove that Holder was lying.

    Either way, your denial of the fact that The Obama public supported the AWB before and during the campain verges on willful ignorace -- a rather interesting condition, given that this particular subject, you say, is irrelevant to the topic.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    One of two things is true:
    -This policy point was originally part of His campaign, as Holder said
    -He hid this policy point until after the election.
    You choose.

    If you choose door #2, you get to then prove that Holder was lying.

    Either way, your denial of the fact that The Obama public supported the AWB before and during the campain verges on willful ignorace -- a rather interesting condition, given that this particular subject, you say, is irrelevant to the topic.
    I really thought you could have proved it with words from Obama or Biden. If you would have been following along the person I was responding to tried making the topic political when it wasnt. They stated the Obama Biden ticket was the most antigun in history disregarding Bill Clinton and Dukakis who lost the support of Texas because of his strict gun law support. The fact remains no this wasnt the most antigun ticket and second Obama has nothing to do with this thread.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I really thought you could have proved it with words from Obama or Biden. If you would have been following along the person I was responding to tried making the topic political when it wasnt. They stated the Obama Biden ticket was the most antigun in history disregarding Bill Clinton and Dukakis who lost the support of Texas because of his strict gun law support. The fact remains no this wasnt the most antigun ticket and second Obama has nothing to do with this thread.
    this evasion is hilarious

    Biden voted for every restriction on gun rights that have come up for a vote while he was in the senate. He was a main sponsor of the contion Gun ban. Yes Obama and Biden had the most anti gun records in history when they formed the ticket and thus the ticket was the most anti gun major ticket in US history. I am unaware of Clinton sponsoring any gun bans or voting for any in arkansas. Gore, as a senator was an NRA A candidate. Dukakis was bad but again, he had less anti gun votes than Biden or Obama (he was a governor)



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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Thank you. You have proven my point that whitey is not fair to bama.
    Obama/Biden was highly supported by the Brady conspiracy against gun rights when they ran. Its only after Obama decided he didn't want to lose congress and Clinton had did he not push the Brady Jihad and persecution of honest gun owners causing that scum to damn him recently.

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this evasion is hilarious

    Biden voted for every restriction on gun rights that have come up for a vote while he was in the senate. He was a main sponsor of the contion Gun ban. Yes Obama and Biden had the most anti gun records in history when they formed the ticket and thus the ticket was the most anti gun major ticket in US history. I am unaware of Clinton sponsoring any gun bans or voting for any in arkansas. Gore, as a senator was an NRA A candidate. Dukakis was bad but again, he had less anti gun votes than Biden or Obama (he was a governor)
    No evasion. You couldn't prove your point let alone what any of this has to do with the topic. You do remember that Clinton ran again in 96 after doing the assault weapons bill in 94 right? You're generalizing trying to claim Obama and Biden was the most antigun in history. Obama and Biden didn't talk about gun control on the campaign. You are unaware that after passing the assault weapon ban in 94 that Clinton ran again for president in 96 or you're just being dishonest? I'll ask you this though, how has your ability to buy and own a gun been hindered by Obama as president?

    The NRA campaigned hard against Gore. Dukakis you weren't aware of because it doesn't fit your narrative. Dukakis ran a campaign on gun control that was more strict than anyone in the last 2 decades.

    Here's a quote from Dukakis: "I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by [the] police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state.” He made that statement while governor. This is a radical statement beyond what any candidate has said.

    But once again what does this have to do with the topic other than to derail the thread?
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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    No evasion. You couldn't prove your point let alone what any of this has to do with the topic. You do remember that Clinton ran again in 96 after doing the assault weapons bill in 94 right? You're generalizing trying to claim Obama and Biden was the most antigun in history. Obama and Biden didn't talk about banning guns on the campaign. You are unaware that after passing the assault weapon ban in 94 that Clinton ran again for president in 96 or you're just being dishonest?

    The NRA campaigned hard against Gore. Dukakis you weren't aware of because it doesn't fit your narrative. Dukakis ran a campaign on gun control that was more strict than anyone in the last 2 decades.

    Here's a quote from Dukakis: "I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by [the] police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state. He made that statement while governor. This is a radical statement beyond what any candidate has said.

    But once again what does this have to do with the topic other than to derail the thread?
    Your evasion and dodging is hilarious

    when Obama and Biden ran for President, their records coming in as a combined ticket was the most anti gun ticket in history BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS--those actions meaning dozens upon dozens of anti gun votes. NEITHER CANDIDATE HAD EVER VOTED for gun owners in ANY VOTE they had ever cast prior to running for president and vice president

    end of story

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    Re: 3 Dead in Shooting at University of Alabama Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Your evasion and dodging is hilarious

    when Obama and Biden ran for President, their records coming in as a combined ticket was the most anti gun ticket in history BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS--those actions meaning dozens upon dozens of anti gun votes. NEITHER CANDIDATE HAD EVER VOTED for gun owners in ANY VOTE they had ever cast prior to running for president and vice president

    end of story

    Smart people based opinions on WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE. less intelligent ones base it on what they say
    More generalizing. Saying that they were the most anti gun ticket in history compared to a guy who thought normal civilians shouldn't own guns is ridiculous. The ticket you speak of was the campaign so again what during their campaign focused on gun control? There are candidates who actually ran on gun control, Bill clinton who actually passed the act you call a jihad and ran again in 96 had more on his record than Obama and Biden.

    But again I ask you what does this have to do with the topic?

    More intelligent people actually talk about things that have to do with the topic than derailing threads on DP. I guess you fit into the less intelligent category.

    Would you like to post on topic now or blather on about gun control?
    Last edited by PogueMoran; 02-17-10 at 09:05 PM.

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